Dope (2015) - Comedy of Young black kids in LA in coming of age story

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i gotta watch when i get in
my sister said this shyt was real good
cant believe i didnt see this when it was out
 

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This movie is :banderas:


@MartyMcFly in some ways it reminds me of "Better Luck Tomorrow" But ultimately it didnt go "that route"

Yeah I still need to see it. Which will be sooner rather than later since its "out" now but I'll probably support and pay my money for it
 

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You might have to wait two months for that, breh (although I'm actually surprised we're supposed to be getting it so 'soon'). I'm sure I'll be able to enjoy it more due to the fact my normally unfortunate birth defect of being born a cac works in my advantage for 'black movies' because I don't watch them with an ingrained sense that any negative representation of a single black person will negatively affect public perception of the entire race for evermore.

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Young nig---:patrice:---cac PREACH! :blessed:



Well, I saw it tonight so here it finally is.

I liked it. A lot. I thought it took a while to get going, and the plot got a bit too out of hand ridiculous at the end, but it basically felt like a black indie hipster Boogie Nights to me. That might seem like a weird movie to compare it to but there was kind of a chaotic fukkery to the characters and world here that really reminded me of Boogie Nights, in particular the famous firecracker scene with the combo of suspenseful situations with outrageous and often funny madness.

After reading page after page of complaints about the N-word usage here, I'm not sure where those complaints come from? Outside of the scenes with the white stoner hacker (which I'll address later), I never really noticed much of the word being used. It's just there and maybe there's a site that counts these kinds of things like they do with "fukk" but I doubt they used it more than in movies like Boyz N The Hood or Menace II Society. And just to check that I wasn't going completely insane, I searched the N-word on the Coli, only in posts made in the past week, and got 192 results. You might want to take that in for a moment, then ask yourself whether the usage in the movie was incessant or accurate. Either way, I barely noticed it. Except for...

... the scene with the white guy, because they head-on addressed it and frankly, I had trouble placing it at first. In some ways it reminded me of the position I took on Dear White People, namely that race and race relations are far more complex and varied than most people would like to admit, and the movie tries to depict that. So you got a white guy who keeps wondering why he can't call them the N-word while they constantly call him that, you got the 'dark black' main who doesn't feel like the shyt is worth addressing, you got a mulatto girl who admittedly will slap the fire out of a white person for saying it and you got the Arabic kid claiming he gets a pass because he's 'ambiguously black'. And it kinda touches on all the levels of the debate. Why do guys like Jib (or real life guys like Fat Joe or DJ Khaled) get a pass? Why do black people like Diggy in the end (reluctantly or not) tolerate it? And most importantly, and I feel this one is very present in the movie but strangely not really mentioned, why the hell do so many white people want to say the word so bad anyway? Why do they refuse to accept that it's offensive so bad that they're practically harassing black people about wanting to say it? The movie never really addresses it directly, but the implication is certainly there. Then again the movie did make a dangerous choice having the characters tolerating it and I think that's one of the reasons the scene still kinda nags.

Which brings me to some of the posts about negative stereotypes. Because I didn't even catch on to how a lot of the characters, the Harvard graduate in particular, exercised in crime. At no point did I feel like there was a low-key implication of "making black people look bad". In fact, I think the only way a person could take it that way is if they were already looking down on black people to begin with, or overly concerned for the portrayal of black people. I mentioned it before in this thread, but I feel there's a trend of people acting like any negative characterization of a single black person in media, reflects badly on the race as a whole. And while there might be people for who this is the case, it should be clear that those people are racists and racists will always find ways to twist things so it feeds their racism. I'm not going to tell anyone that they shouldn't let racism bother them, but it's important to keep in mind that racists will always do what racists do, whether you portray black people as magnificent as they can be, or as flawed as they can be, much like every other person in this world.

But back to the movie, the entire cast did great, Shameik Moore carried the movie really well but I particularly loved the little humorous subtleties of Kiersey Clemons' lesbian character (like her eye-fukking Lily almost more than the guys did when she first opened the door). Also thought Zoe Kravitz and Asap Rocky did good with their limited roles. The direction was good too, sometimes a bit too flashy and show-off-y for its own good but it certainly had more life to it than Dear White People did so in that sense this was a lot more enjoyable to watch. Oh, and I mentioned it's a black indie hipster movie and while some people might dislike it, it again goes with my point that even within the generally accepted monolith of 'the black race', like any race, there are many different kinds of people, who all live their lives differently, and that's a good thing.

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fukked with the movie tough. Saw the previews in jail and finally got a chance to watch it with my shorty a few hours ago.

It had the subtleties & messages there, but still came off as a Superbad meets Friday meets type of flick. Very well done, and actually surprised me with the acting & soundtrack. Def will watch again. 7/10.
 

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I liked it overall, got a bit boring when the white guy game in

Its mad seeing the girl from Extant in here lol
 
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