DON'T fukk THIS UP (AGAIN) KYLE!! EDIT: HE DID!!! ....2024 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS SEASON THREAD.

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Deebo just looks slow. I dont know if hes battling injury or is he still sick. Not the same player. He was great being lined up in the backfield in the slot etc.... exploiting mismatches with linebackers and safeties with his speed. Does not seem 2 be the case now
 

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Who the fukk even are you?

Still doesn't negate the face y'all been the Niners bytch for years. Y'all going to be on the couch when playoff time comes just like the Niners :mjlol:

in all fairness, @Marc Spector has been another Niner Gulag prisoner that we had for years. but after that L and per the agreement. @Rekkapryde had to release him.

So he out on bail and acting up :mjlol:
 

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the best playmaker in the league has been hurt all year along with other elite players...yet yall are blaming the coach? the fukk
 

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Brock has 3 more games to show what kind of QB he is. Is he deserving of a long term mega deal or is he simply not a franchise QB and we give him a stop gap deal? He has regressed this year no matter how you slice it. Not all on him, but when has that ever been a factor for any other QB?

I hope he cements himself as the longterm starter or mid. It will make the decision easier. Looks like teams are exploiting the weaknesses in this offense.
 
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My argument the last two years is that you don't need an elite HC to win a ring when you have the roster we've had for the past 5 years. A *good* HC gets the job done with the type of players we have. We've seen it in plenty of other SB winners that didn't have Beli or Reid/Mahomes.
My argument is that Kyle is the reason the team and roster is elite, which makes him an elite HC. I don't know any player who left this team and balled out in another system besides Mostert last year. It's not like we're stacked with first round picks all across the offense, Kyle has pulled elite production out of a 7th round QB, some UDFA RBs, a 5th round TE, a 7th round WR...the vast majority of coaches in the league are struggling worse with better resources. Plugging in another HC and offensive system with these players isn't guaranteed to match Kyle's production. There are a lot of great coaches who haven't gotten the job done yet (LaFleur, McDermott, Stefanski, Campbell) yet no one is calling for their heads.
 

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I can't blame Kyle Shanahan on this loss. Did he coach a perfect game? No. But this team was beat up and depleted all year.

At this point we need to treat this like the 2020 season (which it more or less is) and evaluate.

I will say this Brock Purdy would actually benefit from being more of a checkdown merchant
 

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“Who has been the factor other than QB?”

  1. Trash oline
  2. Trent literally admitted that missing TC had him out of shape then he gets injured
  3. 1st and 2nd string RBs hurt all damn season
  4. 3rd string RB now hurt due to Kyle being dumb
  5. BA regressed due to missing TC and got injured
  6. Deebo regressed
  7. Ricky not off to a good start due to getting shot
  8. HC with bad playcalling and game play
  9. JJ missing a couple of games
  10. Players dropping key passes that wouldve won games (Conley looking at you)
  11. Offense overall undisciplined & getting dumb penalties on big play or scoring drives


And that’s just factors on offense other than QB. Not even taking into consideration the bad special teams play that cost us games and then the defense who pretty much been held together with ducktape.

So if people wanna still run this narrative on Purdy, he’s the problem & still has to prove himself then fine. But in the order of Problems on this team….. Purdy is like the 40th problem.
 
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Brock has 3 more games to show what kind of QB he is. Is he deserving of a long term mega deal or is he simply not a franchise QB and we give him a stop gap deal? He has regressed this year no matter how you slice it. Not all on him, but when has that ever been a factor for any other QB?

I hope he cements himself as the longterm starter or mid. It will make the decision easier. Looks like teams are exploiting the weaknesses in this offense.
He has regressed in his production, but circumstances have always been a factor for every other QB. QBs aren't paid on the expectation that no other player on offense will contribute. This is why the Bills, Chiefs, Chargers, Bengals and Ravens have all spent a first round pick on a WR in the past couple of years.

I completely agree that if this team for some reason handcuffs itself by committing to playing without our RB1 and WR1 for the foreseeable future and do nothing to improve the OL, then paying Brock all that money would be a mistake. Same way it would be a mistake to give any QB a long term mega deal with that stipulation.

If our offense moving for the foreseeable future will be Brock Purdy, George Kittle, Isaac Guerendo, Juan Jennings, old fat Deebo, and Puni as our best OL then yeah we shouldn't be paying him and should probably blow up the team and start from scratch. Fortunately we have 2 all-pro skill players on roster that will come back and improve the offense, and we have draft capital and cap space to improve the offense, so this it's likely that this year's relatively low production from Brock will be an anomaly. He's proved he can produce at an elite level with a non-skeleton crew offense, so I'm choosing to believe he can return to that approximate level when the offense is healthy again.
 

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Brock has 3 more games to show what kind of QB he is. Is he deserving of a long term mega deal or is he simply not a franchise QB and we give him a stop gap deal? He has regressed this year no matter how you slice it. Not all on him, but when has that ever been a factor for any other QB?

I hope he cements himself as the longterm starter or mid. It will make the decision easier. Looks like teams are exploiting the weaknesses in this offense.
Y'all are in such a tough spot with him. Like I legit think he's a good QB with processing what's happening on the field and reading defenses. I just don't know if he's worth top 5/10 QB money. I've always been against paying huge QB money to one that's not an elite QB since the team is gone have to skimp in other places. I'd be tempted to explore what type of trade value he has and see if a QB desperate team would give up a haul.
 

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He has regressed in his production, but circumstances have always been a factor for every other QB. QBs aren't paid on the expectation that no other player on offense will contribute. This is why the Bills, Chiefs, Chargers, Bengals and Ravens have all spent a first round pick on a WR in the past couple of years.

I completely agree that if this team for some reason handcuffs itself by committing to playing without our RB1 and WR1 for the foreseeable future and do nothing to improve the OL, then paying Brock all that money would be a mistake. Same way it would be a mistake to give any QB a long term mega deal with that stipulation.

If our offense moving for the foreseeable future will be Brock Purdy, George Kittle, Isaac Guerendo, Juan Jennings, old fat Deebo, and Puni as our best OL then yeah we shouldn't be paying him and should probably blow up the team and start from scratch. Fortunately we have 2 all-pro skill players on roster that will come back and improve the offense, and we have draft capital and cap space to improve the offense, so this it's likely that this year's relatively low production from Brock will be an anomaly. He's proved he can produce at an elite level with a non-skeleton crew offense, so I'm choosing to believe he can return to that approximate level when the offense is healthy again.

The thing makes it hard for me to buy the regressed stuff is people keep taking for granted it dismissing all the chaos around him and unlooking how he been keeping it together.

If from jump all the main characters have been present and healthy and doing their thing this year then I would absolutely agree that Brock regressed if we had the same record or worse. But that hasn’t been the case.

Borrows hasnt been the same dude he was a few years ago but no one saying he regressed or same with CJ Stroud. And then people are giving Young pity sympathy and he dealing with a lot of the same things Brock dealing with but they don’t give Brock that same pass.

Its crazy
 
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