Don Lemon Thinks White Reporters Should Be Able To Say N*gger

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If you're okay with dancing around words so be it but not speaking of slurs doesn't make them go away so be it.
If you're going to speak on them you should say it whether it's gook, spic, fakkit, chink etc etc.
It's irritating when you see people trying to censor the use of ****** in a non offensive way or academic discussion.
If you're reading a historical document that contains the word don't skip it or you're essentially white washing history and the same goes for newscasters. Their job is to keep us informed on stories and that includes the dirty stuff and I want it presented as is.
It's like when people read Huck Fin and try to skip it or groups try to censor the book. Just because Mark Twain's use of ****** offends you doesn't mean you should try to pcify it, honestly that's probably worse than keeping it there.
The word is there for a reason.
Cas fight to say ****** but remain tight-lipped when it comes to offending others. how about u just say That the person used highly offensive racial slurs. the transcrips will speak for themselves.

Cas trying to work around being offensive. Hilarious.

Yall won't fight to upset them Jews though. :heh:. Pathetic
 

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Cas fight to say ****** but remain tight-lipped when it comes to offending others. how about u just say That the person used highly offensive racial slurs. the transcrips will speak for themselves.

Cas trying to work around being offensive. Hilarious.

Yall won't fight to upset them Jews though. :heh:. Pathetic
If that's what you want people to say whatever.
But imo there's no problem with using the word in a proper context like all slurs.
 

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If you're okay with dancing around words so be it but not speaking of slurs doesn't make them go away so be it.
If you're going to speak on them you should say it whether it's gook, spic, fakkit, chink etc etc.
It's irritating when you see people trying to censor the use of ****** in a non offensive way or academic discussion.
If you're reading a historical document that contains the word don't skip it or you're essentially white washing history and the same goes for newscasters. Their job is to keep us informed on stories and that includes the dirty stuff and I want it presented as is.
It's like when people read Huck Fin and try to skip it or groups try to censor the book. Just because Mark Twain's use of ****** offends you doesn't mean you should try to pcify it, honestly that's probably worse than keeping it there.
The word is there for a reason.

Dancing around words is an interesting way to put it.

What you are struggling to grasp is what are called social norms, and social norms are a social construct. Both of these concepts are important to understand if you want to understand censorship.

We have behavioural norms for various ages and contexts; saying certain words in certain environments is not accepted because it doesn't align with the existing social norms. Social norms help us function as individuals in a complex society, they are a good thing, but they are always subject to change.

Depending on the situation, it can also prevent children, who do not know the word, from seeing the word. If you don't have children, this can seem like a pointless argument, but it is important for socialization.
 

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If that's what you want people to say whatever.
But imo there's no problem with using the word in a proper context like all slurs.
reporters don't use racia Slurs or curse. As a white man you have an inherent need to hear whites say the nword but this is a sickness you must overcome for a better future
 

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Some of you get in your feelings over some really dumb shyt... Anyone can say the word ******.. It's a word.. it's in the fukking dictionary. It's all about context.

White Reporter: Earlier today a cop repeatedly punched a man in the face while calling him a "******" :dwillhuh: We go live with Joan who is at the scene right now.. Joan :what:

White Reporter[Fox]: A ****** stole a pack of skittles from local convenient store today, cops shot him.. thank God we're all safe now. Lord knows what this violent criminal would have done to the rest of us :troll:

One of these ok, the other is not.
this

hes only referring to saying the word, as opposed to saying the phrase "the n word". like how obama said the word, instead of the phrase "the n word"

i mean i think at one point he literally says 'im not talking about referring to another person that way' :dead:
 

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I've even seen some of those st0rmfr0nt idiots make it seem like they are mad at Dylan Roof for what he did. Not because they care about the innocent lives, but because it's a PR disaster for them and their cause. Obama putting that word on the table is bad PR for America, because Americas public image, especially concerning race is a crock of shyt.
You went astray here at the end. Obama's statement was that not using that word does not mean racism is over. You literally just agreed with him and then claimed that by using it in his example that he is somehow the problem. That does not make much sense. Obama literally urged that word alone is not the problem and the media focused on that word and you blamed him. :what:
 

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I think some of yall are missing the point because you don't like him.

Tip toeing around that word...and racism in general is part of the reason why we are going through the cycle again. If we are to truly begin to process this shyt out of our system it can't be tip toed around, or coded, it has to be called wtf it is.

This is how you end up with "urban" and "thug" being used in the media in regard to black folks, making it look like the people involved or covering it have a different agenda than dehumanizing black folk while playing within the "social norms" that say it's no longer acceptable to be racist in public. It gives institutions and media outlets an out when it comes to their behavior.

It's become less appealing to be seen as a racist than it is to actually be one....Donald Sterling ain't on record saying the "n-word" throughout his ordeal that lost him his team, yet he has done more real harm to black people than 99% of random rednecks who have no qualms about letting it fly. That is the effect of demonizing the word to the degree that actual racists can hang their hat on not saying the word while doing shyt that completely eclipse whatever cultural sting it may have however many years after it's become such a taboo.

That's what those two black reporters who were debating the issue (not this video) didn't get, nor did the white dude. I wish I could have been on that panel and interrupted both of those fukking idiots to really break down how bigots being more "polite" about their bigotry out of fear of being publicly shamed is what's helping to keep the shyt alive.

At some point public lynchings stopped being P.C. Even racist whites were like "I don't like ******s...but public mutilation? Who's gonna clean this up? This isn't very good PR guys"


I've even seen some of those st0rmfr0nt idiots make it seem like they are mad at Dylan Roof for what he did. Not because they care about the innocent lives, but because it's a PR disaster for them and their cause. Obama putting that word on the table is bad PR for America, because Americas public image, especially concerning race is a crock of shyt.

THIS.
 

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I can't hear the clip as I'm at work, but is his context related to a reporter simply relaying what might have been said during whatever incident? If that's the case, I don't entirely knock that as it is a bit corny and unprofessional when they dance around the word. Not to mention demeaning to the audience. I feel the same way about other words or slurs like, "fakket", or "B!tch" for instance. My personal opinion is that when reporters dance around words in instances where the context doesn't include personal malice by the reporter, and is only reporting on a news item, they're essentially infantalizing their audience. As a man, a grown man, a grown Black man, I'm not so sensitive that I'm going to catch offence over a newscaster reporting on a race related story that involves alleged racial slurs.

To be honest, I'm offended that reporters believe I'll be offended because they use the word. Have to say, the past year or so I've been exploring feminism, simply to educate myself on their belief system. One of the things that stands out to me about their movement, is how quickly many of them can be offended. See articles like, "In College, and Hiding From Scary Ideas" (Google that sh!t), or words/phrases they use such as, trigger warnings, and microagressions. They've built an entire subculture complete with it's own language centered on being a perpetual victim. They revel on being a victim. At times, I fear as Black people we've fallen into the same pit. I'd hate to see Black people become as pathetic as too many liberal white women, especially the modern day 3rd generation feminists. It's kinda ironic too, especially as a Hip Hop fan, because we go back and forth on here about a rapper's popularity which means essentially, units pushed. What that also really means is, are white people checking for an artist? We want our favorite artists to succeed, but then we're upset when white fans repeat some of the lyrics. I understand the awkwardness of that scenario. Still, that's not remotely the same as a profesional journalist reporting on a news item that contains alleged racial slurs.
 

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I think Sunny overreacted by Obama saying nigg*r is opening "pandora's box" that everyone is gonna start saying it. She's fooling herself if thinks people aren't saying it now. I don't think that reporters should say it because they don't say other derogatory terms. Like @Malta said if someone said fakkit he'd be in an outrage.
well you're only reinforcing her point.

Sunny isn't stupid enough to think that no one is saying it, but she doesn't want the media to reinforce it given their platform.
 
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