Dominicans of Haitian descent got their citizenship revoked

[7oclock]

In comparison to other African offshoots?

Are AA more faithful to their own than Jamaicans, Ghanians, Brazilians, British? I don't understand why we are viewed as some stagnant. not varied offshoot of our predecessors? We are our own unique Black population. Not sure why other Black diasporas are allowed the privilege of saying they are more "different" and thus can prescribe to self-hate.

other ethnicities to include everyone not just black ethnicities

I don't understand your last sentence but I would say there's more homogeneity in other black ethnicities compared to black americans (I do not like the term African americans as that should be reserved to AFricans now living in America lol). This probably has to do with the status of America as being more of a melting pot then most other countries with black ethnicities (outside of maybe Brazil)

 

[Poitier]

the end of the day are more mixed than we are because the Spanish weren't as when it came to their slaves and much like how white people killed off Native Americans and like to claim their heritage, a lot of Carribean Latinos like to claim Taino/Arawak heritage even though they were pretty much killed off when they were brought in droves.

No, they are not more mixed, they just have Spanish blood which vastly different phenotype than WASP.

Like I said before, Spain was under Moor influence for eons, if anything their Imperial conquerers make them MORE African.

This whole argument is dumb. We are all our unique population and no one is less or more mixed or less or more close to our predecessors.

I don't think AA are anymore like to be faithful to their own than any of those other African populations.

other ethnicities to include everyone not just black ethnicities

I don't understand your last sentence but I would say there's more homogeneity in other black ethnicities compared to black americans (I do not like the term African americans as that should be reserved to AFricans now living in America lol). This probably has to do with the status of America as being more of a melting pot then most other countries with black ethnicities (outside of maybe Brazil)

I agree, it is more of a melting pot, so what is this malarkey of us being a stagnant population that is more similar to our ancestors than other African populations? It just isn't true.

 

[Nomad1]

unnecessary harsh words suggest lack of perspective


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haitian_Revolution

There is not excuse for what happened in the colonial days. They should have had economic and political stability by now.

 

[intruder]

@Intruder v3.0 please educate one of your lost brothers

Im on the road now. I'll respond when I can access a computer

 

[How Sway?]

other ethnicities to include everyone not just black ethnicities

I don't understand your last sentence but I would say there's more homogeneity in other black ethnicities compared to black americans (I do not like the term African americans as that should be reserved to AFricans now living in America lol). This probably has to do with the status of America as being more of a melting pot then most other countries with black ethnicities (outside of maybe Brazil)

Dont want to change the subject but why would an African in america call themselves "African American" when they have their own country of origin in that they identify with?

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

There is not excuse for what happened in the colonial days. They should have had economic and political stability by now.

Yeah like Israel did all by themselves

 

[godkiller]

Dominicans do realize that most of their black ancestry comes from Haiti, right? That's why they look different to other Hispanics.

 

[godkiller]

No, they are not more mixed, they just have Spanish blood which vastly different phenotype than WASP.

Like I said before, Spain was under Moor influence for eons, if anything their Imperial conquerers make them MORE African.

This whole argument is dumb. We are all our unique population and no one is less or more mixed or less or more close to our predecessors.

I don't think AA are anymore like to be faithful to their own than any of those other African populations.

No, Dominicans per general are more mixed than African American. This isn't true for everyone and all African Americans though. Some so-called African Americans don't even have detectable black ancestry.

That's bullshyt, and something white supremacists have unfortunately taught us all to believe. My mother is Ethiopian, they got a whole lot of indigenous Africans there that are not mixed with anything that come out red bone. Africa is the most genetically diverse continent. What does it say about our society if we're led to believe that the only way we can turn out light skin is if we mix with the devil? Look at the Berber (Touareg), them nikkas is indigenous to Africa and they be comin out with light eyes and light skin, what that tell you? Somehow those exclusive nomadic tribes mixed with the French? They're proud as hell, you'll be hard pressed to find one that boasts about their French heritage especially with what they've experienced in North Africa.

What the fukk is good hair though? I'm getting a bad impression from you saying that, honestly. Maybe ya dad had less kinky more loose curls because he traces his ancestry to a group of people that have that phenotype. It doesn't attribute to white admixture. Peep the Hausa/Fulani, the look similar to Africans from the Horn. I have looser curls and less kinky hair than my father's side, and half siblings, but that's not cause I'm mixed it's cause it's the phenotype generally attributed to Ethiopians of Habesha origin (I don't know if I'm even getting that right I don't know much to be fair).

We gotta erase this thinking and be inclusive of all blacks, no matter what, cause once we abandon them they start running off to crackers and worse off with the ingrained white supremacy.

Arguably many East African populations are variously mixed with Arab so they don't count. The black slaves that came from West Africa were black as darkness. Hausa and Fulani are also variously mixed with Arab depending on the individual and location so that doesn't help your case. It's true that redbones/light skins are mixed. That's how they come to exist.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

Dominicans do realize that most of their black ancestry comes from Haiti, right? That's why they look different to other Hispanics.

Our black ancestry comes from Africa breh just like Haiti's does .

 

[Poitier]

No, Dominicans per general are more mixed than African American




I agree, it is more of a melting pot, so what is this malarkey of us being a stagnant population that is more similar to our ancestors than other African populations? It just isn't true.


Arguably many East African populations are variously mixed with Arab so they don't count. The black slaves that came from West Africa were black as darkness. Hausa and Fulani are also variously mixed with Arab depending on the individual and location so that doesn't help your case. It's true that redbones/light skins are mixed. That's how they come to exist.

There is literally nothing you have to go by other than what's coming out of your mouth. I'd gander that most Dominicans are not more mixed, people just assume that because of their phenotype.

Black America has a pretty significant redbone/ light skin population.

You also missed the part where I said the slave trade started MUCH earlier than in America and they gained their freedom from their Spanish conquerer earlier. Not to mention, Spain had been under Moor, another Black arabic population. WASP, American slave masters, are significantly more pure Aryan than the Spanish.

Also, we live in post-Slavery times. Many of us have MORE African lineages than just West Africa. Shyt, the poster a few post above has Ethiopian lineage.

 

[GreatestLaker]

Dominicans do realize that most of their black ancestry comes from Haiti, right? That's why they look different to other Hispanics.

Where do you nikkas come up with this shyt? Their ancestors arrived to DR via Slave Ships.

 

[godkiller]

There is literally nothing you have to go by other than what's coming out of your mouth. I'd gander that most Dominicans are not more mixed, people just assume that because of their phenotype.

Would you say having blonde hair and blue eyes isn't indicative of ancestry? What a stupid statement you made here.

Black America has a pretty significant redbone/ light skin population.

Sure. Redbones and light skins are mixed though. Sorry.

You also missed the part where I said the slave trade started MUCH earlier than in America and they gained their freedom from their Spanish conquerer earlier. Not to mention, Spain had been under Moor, another Black arabic population. WASP, American slave masters, are significantly more pure Aryan than the Spanish.

The Moors were probably Berber ypes, who themselves have various degrees of black ancestry, but are you trying to say the Spanish are black? The Spanish are overwhelmingly white. Some have very small amounts of Berber and black ancestry from many years ago but others do not. Nevert they are no better and no worse than their WASP cousins.

Also, we live in post-Slavery times. Many of us have MORE African lineages than just West Africa. Shyt, the poster a few post above has Ethiopian lineage.

I didn't say anything about West Africa, I said black.

Our black ancestry comes from Africa breh just like Haiti's does .

The Dominican Republic being among the Latino populations with the most black ancestry and the country's proximity to one of the blackest islands in the Americas is no coincidence. The DR gets population gene transfer from Haiti whereas other Hispanic populations do not. The slave trade ended years ago and so there's no new African genes for DR to absorb and maintain its look. Haiti is too conspicuous of an answer to be ignored. You get your genes from Haiti nowadays and probably over the last hundred years too.

 

[GreatestLaker]

The Dominican Republic being among the Latino populations with the most black ancestry and the country's proximity to one of the blackest islands in the Americas is no coincidence. The DR gets population gene transfer from Haiti whereas other Hispanic populations do not. The slave trade ended years ago and so there's no new African genes for DR to absorb and maintain its look. Haiti is too conspicuous of an answer to be ignored. You get your genes from Haiti nowadays and probably over the last hundred years too.

Get out of my thread with this bullshyt.

 

[Poitier]

Would you say having blonde hair and blue eyes isn't indicative of ancestry? What a stupid statement you made here.



Sure. Redbones and light skins are mixed though. Sorry.



The Moors were probably Berber ypes, who themselves have various degrees of black ancestry, but are you trying to say the Spanish are black? The Spanish are overwhelmingly white. Some have very small amounts of Berber and black ancestry from many years ago but others do not. Nevert they are no better and no worse than their WASP cousins.



I didn't say anything about West Africa, I said black.


The Dominican Republic being among the Latino populations with the most black ancestry and the country's proximity to one of the blackest islands in the Americas is no coincidence. The DR gets population gene transfer from Haiti whereas other Hispanic populations do not. The slave trade ended years ago and so there's no new African genes for DR to absorb and maintain its look. Haiti is too conspicuous of an answer to be ignored. You get your genes from Haiti nowadays and probably over the last hundred years too.

I would gander Dominicans with blue and blonde hair are recent to DR and don't have much of a lineage on the island itself. Plus, there are tons of Blacks with sandy brown hair and green eyes, not much difference there.

The Moos were black people ruled for a significant time period. Their impact on the Mediterranean gene pool is being understated. There is a reason why Pre- Moor invasion, The Italians and Spanish described themselves in their literature with typical Aryan features and after, you see a much larger proliferation of darker features.

You said West Africans were black as darkness and other regions had Arabic influence and that most Black American's are West African. I am saying that does not matter since Post- Slavery has saw the lines between distinct African diasporas have blurred.

No Haiti and DR relationship does not work like that. They had totally different Imperial conquerers. The French are not the Spanish. Maintain it's look? There is no White people to dilute it and plus most African phenotypes are dominate, breh. It don't fade like that.

 

[Imyremeshaw]

Arguably many East African populations are variously mixed with Arab so they don't count. The black slaves that came from West Africa were black as darkness. Hausa and Fulani are also variously mixed with Arab depending on the individual and location so that doesn't help your case. It's true that redbones/light skins are mixed. That's how they come to exist.

Bro, this is stupid shyt I've ever heard, Most east africans aren't mix with Arab, Oromo which is biggest group in Ethiopia are largely unmixed, Amhara is different story(although their admixture is overstated, centuries old like northern Sudanese).
Hausa and Fulani mixed, you know Africans phenotypes vary. Are Igbo peole mixed since a good portion of there people are as light as Will Smith, Alicia Keys, and other light skinned African-Americans?
Do some research......