Dominicans of Haitian descent got their citizenship revoked

[GreatestLaker]

Albinos are not yellow skinned black people.





Nikka did I not say earlier to google African American Ancestry + Genotype + Lineage + Percentage + Rape + Slave Owners + White

There are tons of queries that will show that AA are as dissimilar from modern Africans as any Dominican, Trinidadian, French Black, etc

You're just lazy and dense

Dude I can't even believe he is arguing against this. Its common knowledge that 99% of black people in the Americas got some kind of white blood in them from the slavery days. Like dude never even took a history class.

 

[7oclock]

Check these articles out.

http://www.bet.com/news/national/20...-100-percent-african-ancestry-gates-says.html

http://www.theroot.com/views/exactly-how-black-black-america?page=0,0

Dude I can't even believe he is arguing against this. Its common knowledge that 99% of black people in the Americas got some kind of white blood in them from the slavery days. Like dude never even took a history class.

show me any article that states this...this is not true. The % is not 100% nor is it 99%...you will not find a study (especially from history class) that supports those two #s you morons are spouting. Even the linked articles don't state the %'s...you're talking out your ass.

 

[Poitier]

no no no that is not what you said. You stated verbatim that " Any African-American that came over in the Slave Trades has White blood in them"

I am not going to argue any other points except that one, show me a study that states this.

Alright, you got me, I shouldn't have spoken in absolutes and instead should have said "a considerable amount."

 

[Elle Driver]

You do realize modern scientist have ways to read genetic material. For a few stacks, you could know your WHOLE bloodlines lineage and timeline.

What do you guys think yellow and red boned AA are? They are the most empirical example of that mixing.

My mom and sister have light eyes, wavy hair, and are as fair skinned as possible. My dad is dark brown negro w/ good hair. I'm somewhere in between. THATS JUST IN MY FAMILY BLOODLINE.

Damn, I can't believe grownups can't grasp these concepts. Have yall never watched or read any books or movies revolving around slavery

Yella babies didn't exist in Africa unless some non-African was either in relations with or raping them.

That's bullshyt, and something white supremacists have unfortunately taught us all to believe. My mother is Ethiopian, they got a whole lot of indigenous Africans there that are not mixed with anything that come out red bone. Africa is the most genetically diverse continent. What does it say about our society if we're led to believe that the only way we can turn out light skin is if we mix with the devil? Look at the Berber (Touareg), them nikkas is indigenous to Africa and they be comin out with light eyes and light skin, what that tell you? Somehow those exclusive nomadic tribes mixed with the French? They're proud as hell, you'll be hard pressed to find one that boasts about their French heritage especially with what they've experienced in North Africa.

What the fukk is good hair though? I'm getting a bad impression from you saying that, honestly. Maybe ya dad had less kinky more loose curls because he traces his ancestry to a group of people that have that phenotype. It doesn't attribute to white admixture. Peep the Hausa/Fulani, the look similar to Africans from the Horn. I have looser curls and less kinky hair than my father's side, and half siblings, but that's not cause I'm mixed it's cause it's the phenotype generally attributed to Ethiopians of Habesha origin (I don't know if I'm even getting that right I don't know much to be fair).

We gotta erase this thinking and be inclusive of all blacks, no matter what, cause once we abandon them they start running off to crackers and worse off with the ingrained white supremacy.

 

[MewTwo]

Don't care about this Dominican vs. Haitian crap but black women are full of self-hate breh.

http://www.topix.com/forum/topstories/T3CGU07EPO8ERFK5F

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100902180720AAhxpEI

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/i...mqHCYhkjzKIX;_ylv=3?qid=20100829233602AAE9FX5

 

[7oclock]

Alright, you got me, I shouldn't have spoken in absolutes and instead should have said "a considerable amount."

now lets move on from this.

Even the genealogist can't decipher whether your blood was mixed post-slave era or pre-slave era...meaning, Africa is a huge diaspora and even before the slave trade their were many shades of black in Africa

That's bullshyt, and something white supremacists have unfortunately taught us all to believe. My mother is Ethiopian, they got a whole lot of indigenous Africans there that are not mixed with anything that come out red bone. Africa is the most genetically diverse continent. What does it say about our society if we're led to believe that the only way we can turn out light skin is if we mix with the devil? Look at the Berber (Touareg), them nikkas is indigenous to Africa and they be comin out with light eyes and light skin, what that tell you? Somehow those exclusive nomadic tribes mixed with the French? They're proud as hell, you'll be hard pressed to find one that boasts about their French heritage especially with what they've experienced in North Africa.

What the fukk is good hair though? I'm getting a bad impression from you saying that, honestly. Maybe ya dad had less kinky more loose curls because he traces his ancestry to a group of people that have that phenotype. It doesn't attribute to white admixture. Peep the Hausa/Fulani, the look similar to Africans from the Horn. I have looser curls and less kinky hair than my father's side, and half siblings, but that's not cause I'm mixed it's cause it's the phenotype generally attributed to Ethiopians of Habesha origin (I don't know if I'm even getting that right I don't know much to be fair).

We gotta erase this thinking and be inclusive of all blacks, no matter what, cause once we abandon them they start running off to crackers and worse off with the ingrained white supremacy.

I was going to post the same thing that's why I kept mentioning pre and post slavery. Obviously there's multitude of indigenous Africans with different skin tones

however, this is where things become less clear because Africa was the original melting pot of society

 

[Poitier]

That's bullshyt, and something white supremacists have unfortunately taught us all to believe. My mother is Ethiopian, they got a whole lot of indigenous Africans there that are not mixed with anything that come out red bone. Africa is the most genetically diverse continent. What does it say about our society if we're led to believe that the only way we can turn out light skin is if we mix with the devil? Look at the Berber (Touareg), them nikkas is indigenous to Africa and they be comin out with light eyes and light skin, what that tell you? Somehow those exclusive nomadic tribes mixed with the French? They're proud as hell, you'll be hard pressed to find one that boasts about their French heritage especially with what they've experienced in North Africa.

What the fukk is good hair though? I'm getting a bad impression from you saying that, honestly. Maybe ya dad had less kinky more loose curls because he traces his ancestry to a group of people that have that phenotype. It doesn't attribute to white admixture. Peep the Hausa/Fulani, the look similar to Africans from the Horn. I have looser curls and less kinky hair than my father's side, and half siblings, but that's not cause I'm mixed it's cause it's the phenotype generally attributed to Ethiopians of Habesha origin (I don't know if I'm even getting that right I don't know much to be fair).

We gotta erase this thinking and be inclusive of all blacks, no matter what, cause once we abandon them they start running off to crackers and worse off with the ingrained white supremacy.

Did I say specifically white people = yellow babies

Northern African countries like Egypt, Ethiopa, etc have been at the center of tons of diasporas. It wasn't unusual for these societies to go from Eurasian to Nubians, later on Mediterranean influences.

I should not have said "good hair" but that is an accepted term, though evil, and so that is the best way to express hair that is straight or wavy, etc.

Man, Nubians did not have any of those traits. Tribes that traveled out of Africa (Arabs and Eurasians) established their own phenotype and at some point down the road, came back to conquer and mix with Nubian settlements (Egypt, Ethiopia, Somalia, etc)

I took tons of courses in Egyptology, I am aware of how the Northern African diaspora goes. Next time, I should be more specific.

now lets move on from this.

Even the genealogist can't decipher whether your blood was mixed post-slave era or pre-slave era...meaning, Africa is a huge diaspora and even before the slave trade their were many shades of black in Africa



I was going to post the same thing that's why I kept mentioning pre and post slavery. Obviously there's multitude of indigenous Africans with different skin tones

however, this is where things become less clear because Africa was the original melting pot of society

This is false. They can trace all the way back to your ancient lineage. Africa has tons of variety now but it was not so thousands of years ago. Egyptians during the time of Punt and Kemet described themselves and their location in line with Nubian tradition, later they would shift as outside forces came in and distorted that culture. This is pretty standard for all of those African countries and this is where you can trace all of that diversity you talk about.

 

[7oclock]

Did I say specifically white people = yellow babies

Northern African countries like Egypt, Ethiopa, etc have been at the center of tons of diasporas. It wasn't unusual for these societies to go from Eurasian to Nubians, later on Mediterranean influences.

I should not have said "good hair" but that is an accepted term, though evil, and so that is the best way to express hair that is straight or wavy, etc.

Man, Nubians did not have any of those traits. Tribes that traveled out of Africa (Arabs and Eurasians) established their own phenotype and at some point down the road, came back to conquer and mix with Nubian settlements (Egypt, Ethiopia, Somalia, etc)

I took tons of courses in Egyptology, I am aware of how the Northern African diaspora goes. Next time, I should be more specific.

Yes, you should.... before posting nonsensical rhetoric on such a touchy subject.

 

[Elle Driver]

Did I say specifically white people = yellow babies

Northern African countries like Egypt, Ethiopa, etc have been at the center of tons of diasporas. It wasn't unusual for these societies to go from Eurasian to Nubians, later on Mediterranean influences.

I should not have said "good hair" but that is an accepted term, though evil, and so that is the best way to express hair that is straight or wavy, etc.

Man, Nubians did not have any of those traits. Tribes that traveled out of Africa (Arabs and Eurasians) established their own phenotype and at some point down the road, came back to conquer and mix with Nubian settlements (Egypt, Ethiopia, Somalia, etc)

I took tons of courses in Egyptology, I am aware of how the Northern African diaspora goes. Next time, I should be more specific.

I'm not saying Upper Egypt, I'm talking about Lower Egypt, unless they weren't indigenous to that area. Even so, the white admixture in African American communities is to a minute degree especially in comparison to other New World colonies such as Latin America. We didn't keep mixing with them (and the mixing occurred most likely because of rape since relationships probably hardly ever occurred and if it did during that time period it was illegal so they had to hide it), African Americans are usually exclusive to each other. I know this for a fact, we barely date out. Heck my own mother and father's marriage drew a wedge between their families and she's black.

 

[7oclock]

This is false. They can trace all the way back to your ancient lineage. Africa has tons of variety now but it was not so thousands of years ago. Egyptians during the time of Punt and Kemet described themselves and their location in line with Nubian tradition, later they would shift as outside forces came in and distorted that culture. This is pretty standard for all of those African countries and this is where you can trace all of that diversity you talk about.

I'm not saying they can't go back to in your lineage, what I'm saying they can't pinpoint at what time your lineage went from being "pure blood" to being a % of European. That could potentially have happened post or pre slavery. Now, I have not researched or came across #'s regarding the genealogy of Western AFrican tribes, so I will not make any statement regarding the potential of "European" genes within their lineage.

 

[JBoy]

I exaggerated but no, if you examined are phenotypes and genotypes would have some similarity but the difference would be comparable to the difference between an AA and Dominicans, Jamaicans, British Blacks, French Blacks. They aren't somehow super specifically closer to us AA than they are those other diasporas.

the average black American is overwheminlgy of Black blood and having non-Black blood doesn't change this fact and I don't see why it is constantly brought up.

 

[Poitier]

I'm not saying Upper Egypt, I'm talking about Lower Egypt, unless they weren't indigenous to that area. Even so, the white admixture in African American communities is to a minute degree especially in comparison to other New World colonies such as Latin America. We didn't keep mixing with them (and the mixing occurred most likely because of rape since relationships probably hardly ever occurred and if it did during that time period it was illegal so they had to hide it), African Americans are usually exclusive to each other. I know this for a fact, we barely date out. Heck my own mother and father's marriage drew a wedge between their families and she's black.

1. My Great Great Great Grandmother was married to a Blackman. It was only illegal in Slave states.
2. Latin American colonies, in large, GAINED THEIR INDEPENDENCE BEFORE WE DID. It's "fresher" in most AA bloodline, I would surmise. Not sure why you believe the mixture is less other than bias.
3. AA are exclusive to each other? Find me tons of research that states that. From what I can recollect, interracial relationships, especially among Black men, have been on the rise.

the average black American is overwheminlgy of Black blood and having non-Black blood doesn't change this fact and I don't see why it is constantly brought up.

And it's the same with any African diaspora (French, British, Jamaican, Brazilian, etc)

It's brought up because people are in this thread acting like we are direct, stagnant representations of our African predecessors and not our own people just as different as a Black Panamanian or Belizean is from Africa. We aren't no more or no less Black than any other population, outside of Africa, and even then their is great variety that has made them different from their predecessor.

I'm not saying they can't go back to in your lineage, what I'm saying they can't pinpoint at what time your lineage went from being "pure blood" to being a % of European. That could potentially have happened post or pre slavery. Now, I have not researched or came across #'s regarding the genealogy of Western AFrican tribes, so I will not make any statement regarding the potential of "European" genes within their lineage.

What is there to research? It's in Ancient text, unless you think they made up their recordings of different dynastic rules?

 

[7oclock]

1. My Great Great Great Grandmother was married to a Blackman. It was only illegal in Slave states.
2. Latin American colonies, in large, GAINED THEIR INDEPENDENCE BEFORE WE DID. It's "fresher" in most AA bloodline, I would surmise. Not sure why you believe the mixture is less other than bias.
3. AA are exclusive to each other? Find me tons of research that states that. From what I can recollect, interracial relationships, especially among Black men, have been on the rise.

#3 - you're right. But I would say in comparison to other "ethnicities" it's relatively low...the old adage of "ABB" Anything but black still holds true.

 

[Poitier]

#3 - you're right. But I would say in comparison to other "ethnicities" it's relatively low...the old adage of "ABB" Anything but black still holds true.

In comparison to other African offshoots?

Are AA more faithful to their own than Jamaicans, Ghanians, Brazilians, British? I don't understand why we are viewed as some stagnant. not varied offshoot of our predecessors? We are our own unique Black population. Not sure why other Black diasporas are allowed the privilege of saying they are more "different" and thus can prescribe to self-hate.

 

[Elle Driver]

1. My Great Great Great Grandmother was married to a Blackman. It was only illegal in Slave states.
2. Latin American colonies, in large, GAINED THEIR INDEPENDENCE BEFORE WE DID. It's "fresher" in most AA bloodline, I would surmise. Not sure why you believe the mixture is less other than bias.
3. AA are exclusive to each other? Find me tons of research that states that. From what I can recollect, interracial relationships, especially among Black men, have been on the rise.

It doesn't matter, even in the Northeast, as much as they liked to act enlightened because a lot of them claimed to be abolitionists a lot of racist shyt was still going on. Latin American colonies, at the end of the day are more mixed than we are because the Spanish weren't as when it came to their slaves and much like how white people killed off Native Americans and like to claim their heritage, a lot of Carribean Latinos like to claim Taino/Arawak heritage even though they were pretty much killed off when they were brought in droves. African Americans may enter interracial relationships, but it's to a much lower degree than any other race. I think Asians have us beat in that department. We are mostly exclusive to each other, I think it goes back to slavery, we had each other to lean on through all the bullshyt so we're not as quick to abandon our race and just go with the first cracka we see. At least in my experience and what I've seen.