Does Sony Overestimate How "Big" The Horizon Franchise Is?

does sony overestimate how big/popular the Horizons franchise really is?

  • yes, it's not as popular or beloved as Sony thinks it is

    Votes: 19 61.3%
  • nope, it's a huge & successful franchise

    Votes: 5 16.1%
  • Horizons is a mid-tier franchise that is popular enough to deserve spinoffs to expand the lore

    Votes: 4 12.9%
  • Horizons feels like a failure and sunk cost fallacy for Sony that is forced on us

    Votes: 3 9.7%
  • it has the potential to be massive but Sony is fumbling the bag

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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Da King

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Obviously they forced that shyt :mjlol:

And in their brilliance instead of horizon 3 next we got some trash live service MP horizon game that’s going to flop out the gate
 

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8 million copies sold on a $250 million budget is an extreme flop.

Especially when you consider that this game has been heavily discounted over the years

are we even sure Forbidden West has even broke enough on its budget ?

Ill use some common sense for everyone here, if you are wondering if a game, a movie, an investment, anything, broke even after spending $250 million on it, its probably a flop.
You know $60 time 8 million is $480 million right? That means that have almost made double what they spent making it and you're calling it a flop lol
 

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Horizon is an interesting game in that I think both games were really good. The VR game looked really good as well. But it's just something about it that doesn't FEEL grand. I don't know if it's because it's a first party exclusive, but it feels like it should be bigger than it is.
 

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You know $60 time 8 million is $480 million right? That means that have almost made double what they spent making it and you're calling it a flop lol
You know that majority of the sales werent at $60 right ? fukking retarded ass sony stans :mjlol: the game is only $20 on PC :mjlol:

shyt is bargain bin status :mjlol:
 
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the budget cost was around $200 million

8.4 million UNITS not COST. comes out to around $504 million (and $588 mil that includes the bundles). that is not a fukking flop. wtf is going on.
The DEVELOPMENT cost was $212 million not including marketing cost which this game had super bowl and nba all star ads, bringing the cost closer to $250-300 million range.

A lot of units were in PS5 bundles, discounted PC sales (the game is only $20 on PC), discounted holiday PS5 sales, etc.

I say it over and over again, most Sony stans here are financially illiterate.
 

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the budget cost was around $200 million

8.4 million UNITS not COST. comes out to around $504 million (and $588 mil that includes the bundles). that is not a fukking flop. wtf is going on.

I BLAME THE PUBLIC EDUCATION SYSTEM, GINA!!!


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The DEVELOPMENT cost was $212 million not including marketing cost which this game had super bowl and nba all star ads, bringing the cost closer to $250-300 million range.

A lot of units were in PS5 bundles, discounted PC sales (the game is only $20 on PC), discounted holiday PS5 sales, etc.

I say it over and over again, most Sony stans here are financially illiterate.
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ChatGPT said:​


The estimated budget for Horizon Forbidden West, developed by Guerrilla Games and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment, is believed to be around $110–150 million, excluding marketing expenses. Including marketing, the total cost could reach $200 million or more. These figures are typical for AAA games of this scale, with high production values, cutting-edge graphics, and extensive open-world design.
Would you like more details about its development or revenue performance?

4o

You said:​

how much was sold

ChatGPT said:​


As of April 16, 2023, Horizon Forbidden West has sold over 8.4 million units worldwide. This contributes to the Horizon franchise's total sales exceeding 32.7 million units.
IGN

These figures include sales across PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 5 platforms. Additionally, many players have accessed the game through PlayStation's subscription services, such as PlayStation Plus and Play at Home.
Gematsu

The game's success has solidified its position as one of the best-selling titles on the PlayStation 5.
Push Square

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4o

You said:​

what was the budget for horizon zero dawn

ChatGPT said:​


The estimated development budget for Horizon Zero Dawn, developed by Guerrilla Games and released in 2017, was around €45–47 million (approximately $50–55 million USD). When adjusted for marketing costs, the total budget likely exceeded $100 million, making it one of the larger investments for Sony at the time.
This budget reflected the ambitious nature of the game, including its open-world design, high-quality visuals, and innovative gameplay mechanics. It paid off, as the game became a massive success, selling over 20 million copies as of February 2022.
Would you like to dive into its sales performance or development details?

4o

You said:​

how much is 8..4 million in cost

ChatGPT said:​


To calculate the revenue generated from selling 8.4 million copies of Horizon Forbidden West, we need an average selling price. For AAA games, the average price is around $60–70 USD at launch.

Estimation:​

  • If sold at $60 per copy: 8.4 million copies×60=504 million USD8.4 \, \text{million copies} \times 60 = 504 \, \text{million USD}8.4million copies×60=504million USD
  • If sold at $70 per copy: 8.4 million copies×70=588 million USD8.4 \, \text{million copies} \times 70 = 588 \, \text{million USD}8.4million copies×70=588million USD

Approximate Revenue Range:​

  • $504–588 million USD (not including discounted sales, bundles, or additional revenue from DLCs and subscription services).
Keep in mind, not all sales are at full price, so the actual revenue could be lower. Do you need a deeper breakdown?

4o
 

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ChatGPT said:​


The estimated budget for Horizon Forbidden West, developed by Guerrilla Games and published by Sony Interactive Entertainment, is believed to be around $110–150 million, excluding marketing expenses. Including marketing, the total cost could reach $200 million or more. These figures are typical for AAA games of this scale, with high production values, cutting-edge graphics, and extensive open-world design.
Would you like more details about its development or revenue performance?

4o

You said:​

how much was sold

ChatGPT said:​


As of April 16, 2023, Horizon Forbidden West has sold over 8.4 million units worldwide. This contributes to the Horizon franchise's total sales exceeding 32.7 million units.
IGN

These figures include sales across PlayStation 4 and PlayStation 5 platforms. Additionally, many players have accessed the game through PlayStation's subscription services, such as PlayStation Plus and Play at Home.
Gematsu

The game's success has solidified its position as one of the best-selling titles on the PlayStation 5.
Push Square

Sources
Favicon

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4o

You said:​

what was the budget for horizon zero dawn

ChatGPT said:​


The estimated development budget for Horizon Zero Dawn, developed by Guerrilla Games and released in 2017, was around €45–47 million (approximately $50–55 million USD). When adjusted for marketing costs, the total budget likely exceeded $100 million, making it one of the larger investments for Sony at the time.
This budget reflected the ambitious nature of the game, including its open-world design, high-quality visuals, and innovative gameplay mechanics. It paid off, as the game became a massive success, selling over 20 million copies as of February 2022.
Would you like to dive into its sales performance or development details?

4o

You said:​

how much is 8..4 million in cost

ChatGPT said:​


To calculate the revenue generated from selling 8.4 million copies of Horizon Forbidden West, we need an average selling price. For AAA games, the average price is around $60–70 USD at launch.

Estimation:​

  • If sold at $60 per copy: 8.4 million copies×60=504 million USD8.4 \, \text{million copies} \times 60 = 504 \, \text{million USD}8.4million copies×60=504million USD
  • If sold at $70 per copy: 8.4 million copies×70=588 million USD8.4 \, \text{million copies} \times 70 = 588 \, \text{million USD}8.4million copies×70=588million USD

Approximate Revenue Range:​

  • $504–588 million USD (not including discounted sales, bundles, or additional revenue from DLCs and subscription services).
Keep in mind, not all sales are at full price, so the actual revenue could be lower. Do you need a deeper breakdown?

4o
I get my info from actual sources and documents, not AI.

"Horizon Forbidden West, meanwhile, cost $212 million to develop and utilized more than 300 developers."



1) thats just development cost, not marketing included.

2) Your AI already failed by saying the average cost sold was $60-70

when its closer to probably $35-40

PC version is $20
PS5 Bundle is free (counts as a unit)
Holiday sales throughout the years

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