Rell84shots
Veteran
They both hold up extremely well, and as i said in another thread Charles S Dutton speech in M2S is shockingly accurate in today's climate.
You are preaching to the choir on that, a lot of the flicks from that genre had the subtlety of a sledgehammer and insulted the intelligence of the black folk. Its like they felt they needed to spell it out because the black moviegoer was too dumb. I don't remember so much of that in m2s but I do in boyz in the hood and most certainly south centralyes, but that doesn't make it powerful, just preachy
"Talking bout I better pay or else...i ain't yo bytch, nikka""WHAT THE fukk YOU MEAN YOU AIN'T GOT THE MONEY YET?"
"fukk YOU, TAT! WHO YOU THINK YOU ARE? Ron O Neal or something?"
I must be the only nikka that can't really watch Menace anymore because it's overly ignant and there's absolutely nothing optimistic when it ends
menace wasn't a shock value film, it was uncompromising and realistic. it exposed how people grow up in those types of surroundings, become who they are through adaptation and how some of them try to make the best of their lives and fail(kane, malik), while others completely stop giving a fukk and accept their lives for what they are(o-dog, a-wax). i agree that it has a certain unintentional comedy, but name another movie that managed to casually portray growing up in a broken home in the hood the way that menace did? the message of the movie is that kane never had a chance. boyz in the hood tries to hit you over the head with it's message, menace shows you the hood for what it is, without pretending that there is a solution. boyz tells you that you can make it out of the hood if you turn your life around. menace tells you that you might make it out of the hood if you turn your life around, but if you do, you're lucky, because more likely than not you'll become a victim of circumstances.The way the film plays out. Especially the end, when Doughboy claps those bloods, it's just a more powerful scene than what menace offered. Menace was more a shock value film, it's very entertaining but it has turned into more of an unintentional comedy in many ways. Boyz is just deeper to me, explores the family more, furious trying to keep his son on the right path, his gentrification speech, the whole first and third act. The musical score. It's tone seperates it imo. When I was younger menace I always like a bit more though.