Do you think Biden made the right call in Afghanistan? And if not, what should he have done?

Did Biden make the right call in Afghanistan?


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How hard was it to evacuate people who didn’t want to be there under Taliban rule before pulling troops?


How hard was it to know if the Afghan army was competent?



This is a failure of the pentagon, the defense department, and every department related to the military.

The WHOLE point of this shyt show is the moment we made it clear we were leaving the Taliban invaded and the Afghanistan military folded. It didn't matter when we tried to evacuate because the Taliban would have been their as soon as we started. WHENEVER we started our pullout this was going to happen. And don't forget this is after an extension to give us what we thought would be more time.
 

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Every bridge, road, tunnel fixed

Free college for those who want it

Better infrastructure period

Do you know how much shyt we could have if not for the money we spent on Afghanistan?

Let the Russians and the Chinese deal with it...especially the Chinese. They gon learn.

Yep. What Americans traded for that money and time...makes us look like complete sociopaths and idiots.
 

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The WHOLE point of this shyt show is the moment we made it clear we were leaving the Taliban invaded and the Afghanistan military folded. It didn't matter when we tried to evacuate because the Taliban would have been their as soon as we started. WHENEVER we started our pullout this was going to happen. And don't forget this is after an extension to give us what we thought would be more time.

Bruh, you missing his point. We not gonna get anywhere if we can’t criticize our leaders. We all mostly Democrats in here. No one is MAGA. No one has secret agendas. We just saying it could’ve been better executed. We didn’t have to pull out until Sep. 11th, 2021. Why move it up to Aug. 31st? Why did we give up Bagrum Air Force Base? Why did we pull out soldiers before we got everyone out? Shouldn’t the soldiers have left last? For the people stuck in the countryside, why didn’t we set up checkpoints around the country to get them out? They have analysts working nonstop in Washington examining the information on the ground in Afghanistan. We know the Afghans are disorganized, corrupt and inept now as a public but these insiders would’ve knew beforehand working intimately with this behind closed doors, so either they lied and misrepresented the situation when they decided to pull out of the country or they don’t know what the fukk they are doing. Either way they deserve criticism.
 

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Bruh, you missing his point. We not gonna get anywhere if we can’t criticize our leaders. We all mostly Democrats in here. No one is MAGA. No one has secret agendas. We just saying it could’ve been better executed. We didn’t have to pull out until Sep. 11th, 2021. Why move it up to Aug. 31st? Why did we give up Bagrum Air Force Base? Why did we pull out soldiers before we got everyone out? Shouldn’t the soldiers have left last? For the people stuck in the countryside, why didn’t we set up checkpoints around the country to get them out? They have analysts working nonstop in Washington examining the information on the ground in Afghanistan. We know the Afghans are disorganized, corrupt and inept now as a public but these insiders would’ve knew beforehand working intimately with this behind closed doors, so either they lied and misrepresented the situation when they decided to pull out of the country or they don’t know what the fukk they are doing. Either way they deserve criticism.

This is exactly where Im with it and cannot really reconcile how people cannot at least acknowledge some of this even though they may say fukk it at least we are out of there, the damage is done.

And again, for the record, I was against the war in Iraq and wouldnt have had much of a footprint in afghanistan other than a targeted spec ops campaign (or something of the sort) to take out al Qaeda..but if I was Biden and inheriting that situation..I'm making sure all the shyt you listed gets addressed before pulling everyone out, even if my goal is to pull everything out and act like I was never there in the first place.
 

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i can also readily admit that it may not mean much ultimately politically in terms of elections and that could also be why people think a fuss is being made out of nothing. some votes here and there or some loss in points on the who do you trust more as a commander in chief survey not withstanding :hubie: fine. doesnt mean that the exit wasnt significantly flawed
 

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The WHOLE point of this shyt show is the moment we made it clear we were leaving the Taliban invaded and the Afghanistan military folded. It didn't matter when we tried to evacuate because the Taliban would have been their as soon as we started. WHENEVER we started our pullout this was going to happen. And don't forget this is after an extension to give us what we thought would be more time.

If they kept ALL of the troops in place, the Taliban wouldn't have done shyt. That's the whole point. And if they tried to attack, the military would've retaliated.
 

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crazy it came to this. Who was the Afghani poster i use to have death matches with over Afghanistan back in KTL? looking back he was partially right, the population doesnt have the will or agrees with the taliban too much to go against the taliban, so it doesnt matter how much man power you put

but biden or trump should not have pulled out. the us presence was minimal by last year, with very little combat, it would cost very little to keep a minor presence there which is what Bide/trump should have done

the status quo stalemate was better then what is happening now and what will happen in the future
 
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from what im reading the real fuk up was not whats happening now, the real fuk up was when biden ordered the abandonment of bagram air force base, without telling anybody, literally telling nobody, not the afghans and not its allies, which is crazy and unexplainable

that was the catalyst for the army abandoning their positions and for the crazy situation now, if they had waited on abandong the air force base and done a proper handover to the afghans none of this would have happened
 

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If they kept ALL of the troops in place, the Taliban wouldn't have done shyt. That's the whole point. And if they tried to attack, the military would've retaliated.


We did that for decades but the problem was it was a drain on our resources and unless we were there permanently, the Taliban was gonna take over anyway
 

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We did that for decades but the problem was it was a drain on our resources and unless we were there permanently, the Taliban was gonna take over anyway

You're not hearing me.

Let the civilians leave first, then the troops.

The former Trump administration denied visas to afghans trying to bounce. Biden didn't do shyt to address that. It was a cluster fukk.

At the end of the day, the Taliban are a terrorist group. But the western world has basically legitimized them.


But some how, Hamas is considered a terrorist organization, and they are a democratically elected party. You see the hypocrisy?
 
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