Do SOCIALLY conservative blk women make the best wives/GFs?

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Ok, well I've placed up more information not from that person. So go back and try to ignore other data concerning this issue.

Children in single-mother families typically have poorer outcomes, across a range of measures, than those living with both parents. However, many studies have concluded that, once factors such as low income and poor maternal mental health are accounted for, the impact of family structure on cognitive outcomes is small (see Chapple, 2009, for a review). Yet it is well known that children who grow up in single-mother families have different socioeconomic circumstances to those living with both parents and this is, at least in part, because they live with a single mother: single motherhood is linked to reduced income, a high risk of poverty, worse maternal mental health, poor parenting practices, and a range of other disruptions, such as home and school moves and multiple family transitions (Hill, Yeung, & Duncan, 2001; McLanahan, 2009). As a result, regression-based models comparing children in single and two-parent families which condition on contemporary socioeconomic and psychological characteristics are likely to underestimate the impact of single motherhood on their outcomes. Although prior studies have examined the role that a range of mechanisms play in mediating the relationship between family structure and child outcomes (e.g., Carlson & Corcoran, 2001), they have not previously quantified the magnitude of these relationships. As a result, the indirect effect that single motherhood has on child outcomes remains poorly understood. In this article, using data from three British birth cohorts and structural equation models, we address this gap in the literature. We estimate both the direct and indirect effect of single motherhood on children’s cognitive attainment and assess the relative importance of different mechanisms, including differences, and changes, in economic and parental resources, in driving attainment gaps.

not taking your marripedia source seriously.. started reading it and once I saw the word "illegitimacy" in relation to children I knew I was dealing with more propaganda.

Consider the following findings:

  • Over the past fifty years, the rise in violent crime parallels the rise in families abandoned by fathers.
  • High-crime neighborhoods are characterized by high concentrations of families abandoned by fathers.

it ignores that rising wealth inequality over the past 50 years.

it ignores the over-policing and imprisonment of a lot of young men who were incarcerated for decades, in addition to the massive property & cash seizures by government that left families poorer and without a stable home.
 

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Thats what these "back in day we...." dudes arent getting. Going back to those days requires stripping people of their rights.

The one of the rights we got from back then was the ability to choose. So if your traditional, link up with those who think same instead of wishing for everybody to be in the same environment as you


Wanting to be the bread winner and have a stay at home wife isn't stripping anybody of their rights

Y'all making Black militancy look like a disease.
 

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the one I look up to has been married to a socially conservative woman for 33 years. My other examples of marriage have been where socially conservative men are with socially conservative women. I’m going to look at that as influence for me and what I should do.
 
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by its very nature, conservatism is doomed to fail. you can't keep things the same forever. what is considered normal in the 1930s will get you jailed today. things change and accepting that will make your life a lot easier.

i want an emotionally and intellectually intelligent woman. one who recognizes the nuances of life itself and doesn't see things based on arbitrary political/societal views.
You trying too hard. He means do women who arent all into posting on social media, dressing provocatively in public, speaking suggestively and obnoxious at every interaction, life revolves around "turning up" and trying to build a billboard of herself in social settings make better wives than women who thirst trap, party and want to be on everyones feed.
 

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not taking your marripedia source seriously.. started reading it and once I saw the word "illegitimacy" in relation to children I knew I was dealing with more propaganda.



it ignores that rising wealth inequality over the past 50 years.

it ignores the over-policing and imprisonment of a lot of young men who were incarcerated for decades, in addition to the massive property & cash seizures by government that left families poorer and without a stable home.
You think creative misuse of context by bolding parts of the report will support your position? Let's also highlight where they counter your bolded points.

"Children in single-mother families typically have poorer outcomes, across a range of measures, than those living with both parents. However, many studies have concluded that, once factors such as low income and poor maternal mental health are accounted for, the impact of family structure on cognitive outcomes is small (see Chapple, 2009, for a review). Yet it is well known that children who grow up in single-mother families have different socioeconomic circumstances to those living with both parents and this is, at least in part, because they live with a single mother: single motherhood is linked to reduced income, a high risk of poverty, worse maternal mental health, poor parenting practices, and a range of other disruptions, such as home and school moves and multiple family transitions (Hill, Yeung, & Duncan, 2001; McLanahan, 2009). As a result, regression-based models comparing children in single and two-parent families which condition on contemporary socioeconomic and psychological characteristics are likely to underestimate the impact of single motherhood on their outcomes. Although prior studies have examined the role that a range of mechanisms play in mediating the relationship between family structure and child outcomes (e.g., Carlson & Corcoran, 2001), they have not previously quantified the magnitude of these relationships. As a result, the indirect effect that single motherhood has on child outcomes remains poorly understood. In this article, using data from three British birth cohorts and structural equation models, we address this gap in the literature. We estimate both the direct and indirect effect of single motherhood on children’s cognitive attainment and assess the relative importance of different mechanisms, including differences, and changes, in economic and parental resources, in driving attainment gaps."


Notice how the bold and italics portion of the same excerpt you used counters the bold portion you used. It is like you just tried to find something, anything to latch on to, to support your position. Well, the vast majority of the same excerpt you posted up there explains why your stance is incomplete in its assessment of the situation.
 

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nikkas really acting like a black woman can't have traditional values even with growing up with one parent :what:

I met more black women that grew up in a one parent household that has more traditional values than a black woman who grew up in a two parent household.
 

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by its very nature, conservatism is doomed to fail. you can't keep things the same forever. what is considered normal in the 1930s will get you jailed today. things change and accepting that will make your life a lot easier.

i want an emotionally and intellectually intelligent woman. one who recognizes the nuances of life itself and doesn't see things based on arbitrary political/societal views.

This right here. Thread ends. Trying to break family values down to politics. No.

But of course proud soldier of the "both sides" crew @saturn7 couldn't wait to jump in this thread and preach the virtues of archaic "social" conservatism. Don't accuse "both sides" cats of being Republicans though. How dare you make such assumptions.
 

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Wtf is SOCIALLY conservative?

Some term coli c**ns and Tariq Nasheed types eager to be Republican made up. It's when you selectively choose what you "like" about a white power ideology and say "see, that's me. I'm not a liberal."

In this case it'll be a bunch of "both sides" dudes propagating right wing white supremacist nonsense as usual of conservatives being all about God, family, morals, and "traditional values"--the same God fearing family values conservatives who worship Donald Trump--while liberals hate families and are all about sex.

Just a sorry excuse to be a right wing super c**n and shout "both sides" at the same time.
 

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nikkas really acting like a black woman can't have traditional values even with growing up with one parent :what:

I met more black women that grew up in a one parent household that has more traditional values than a black woman who grew up in a two parent household.
Has anyone actually made that assertion in this thread?
 

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So is a black man racist for wanting a stay at home wife? By definition that's socially conservatism.
That’s not. There are plenty well off liberal couples where the woman can stay home or pursue her hobbies and interest. It’s crazy black adults have been so Bamboozled by conservative cacs who who don’t practice what they preach . If Jesus came into the world today he would be a liberal and chastise conservatives:salute:.y’all’s god from the Bible would probably be MAGA tho :mjpls:
 

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That’s not. There are plenty well off liberal couples where the woman can stay home or pursue her hobbies and interest. It’s crazy black adults have been so Bamboozled by conservative cacs who who don’t practice what they preach . If Jesus came into the world today he would be a liberal and chastise conservatives:salute:.y’all’s god from the Bible would probably be MAGA tho :mjpls:
I think you mistake social conservative for political conservative. Those are two different things. That couple you are talking about that is politically liberal can still be socially conservative when it comes to relationships and marriage.

I think that is the misunderstanding with much of this thread. Being Socially Conservative is not the same as being Politically Conservative.
 

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But by definition weren't Black Americans living a conservative lifestyle? Isnt that how Africans lived? The man brought home the bread, the wife took care of the kids. The black family unit was intact. No need for white daycare. Black children had two parents under the same household.

What's wrong with that approach?

I swear y'all dudes watch way too much Fox News and show your asses in these "socially conservative" threads. It's like y'all really been brainwashed with sahllow 4cac stereotypes that all "liberals" are cross dressing protestors with blue hair dye and glasses. You think just because they don't share your bigotry towards homosexuals that a "liberal" family is incapable of raising children together in a healthy household? You believe being "conservative" is synonymous with having a family and a home, and all liberals are transgendered crossdressers?

Both sides dudes like this guy, @saturn7 and @Mowgli believe a bunch of white power conservatives that think black lives matter is a terrorist hate group and willing to burn down Capitol Hill in the name of Donald Trump hold the authority on family values and morals just because they share their ignorance towards others (and because they agree with their right wing politics, as much as they like to put on some black power front). But the ideology that just got millions of kids student loans slashed are the ones I'm suppose to believe despise families. Sure, okay. Y'all go ahead and be on the wrong side of history if it makes you feel like you belong to some moral superiority.
 

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Most conservative black women are from the south


Southern black women are the greatest women on the planet

Most of the negative stereotypes of black women don't represent black women from the south

So yes socially conservative bw are the best
That's what I'm saying. Usually the conservative type has the "take her to meet the family" vibe...

For the longest, it was always said to head south for a good country girl. IDK how accurate that is though but still... that Ideal woman is from the south
 

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Socially conservative people are better in relationships period
I imagine at this point in 2022 any woman who identifies as conservative in any way or form is an insufferable conspiracy theorist pro-Trump Marjory Taylor style weirdo bigot. Probably holds far more disturbing beliefs than any liberal stereotype yall are obsessed with But I know coli dudes love their archaic fantasies of what "conservatism" and "conservative" women are.
 
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