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If its done right. I have no problem with it. I'm not on some whites are off limits to black culture. As long as its done respectfully, I can rock with it - not some ish like this tho.

So your problem with this is that Foxx is getting helped by a white guy?
 

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c00nery and bufoonery, honestly I will check it out on bootleg, but the way they tried to push this shyt at the BET awards SMH
 

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If its done right. I have no problem with it. I'm not on some whites are off limits to black culture. As long as its done respectfully, I can rock with it - not some ish like this tho.

When did you see the advance screening?
 

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So your problem with this is that Foxx is getting helped by a white guy?

No that's not my problem. There were revolts such as Bacon's Rebellion which included blacks and whites. My problem is where the story is centered around a black character or characters, the main figure cant succeed without the help of a white person or their struggle is validated thru this white character. This isnt an isolated theme. Its rehashed once or twice a year. Whether its the poor, troubled black and brown youths in school, who get hope from the tough, no-nonsense white teacher, to the downtrodden, southern maids whose self worth is actualized by a young white girl, or how about the homeless, schizophrenic, violin playing, genius who is befriend by a white journalist, wanting to save him from the madness of his life. You could say, but these are true stories! Yes, but why dont we get some type of balance with this? We do actually, lol but they're also based on stereotypes "Driving Miss Daisy" & "Legend of Bagger Vance" Why dont we see truthful and honest stories about black characters helping whites? Because white people are comfortable in seeing people of color in subservient positions. Anything opposite would possibly challenge or expose their beliefs.

And no I havent seen the film. I've seen enough to know already. haha
 

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I'm not saying it was racist, you dumb fukk. I was agreeing that it wasn't racist, and that people need to chill the fukk out calling every goddamn thing racist. Jews didn't cry that their entire group in that movie was led by some regular white dude. Who gives a fukk? Its a movie.

that's some racist shty right there.
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Tarantino isn't trying to tell the story of black American slavery, though. His m.o. has always been stylized surreal, violence-filled, black-humored, modernist absurdist fiction. He's never tried to promote any particular ideology like Oliver Stone or illustrate a vision of history like Spike Lee. His movies are basically well...pulp fiction. You just take them for what they are, and you don't take them too seriously.
exacta-fukin-ly.
THis isn't some social commentary movie, it's not a documentary, it's nothing more than an opportunity to see some shyt get blown up and some folks get got in a variety of manner.

If you're reading that much into a QT film then go kill yourself.

By all accounts Kill Bill was racist to oriental people then right?
 

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exacta-fukin-ly.
THis isn't some social commentary movie, it's not a documentary, it's nothing more than an opportunity to see some shyt get blown up and some folks get got in a variety of manner.

If you're reading that much into a QT film then go kill yourself.

By all accounts Kill Bill was racist to oriental people then right?
Kill Bill wasnt about Japanese internment camps, or Chinese railroad workers, or the Vietnamese during our war with them, etc. Kill Bill wasn't about some white person being the key to an Asian accomplishing their goals. Kill Bill wasn't a joke about two very sensitive topics... slavery, and the completely hackneyed overdone "rags to riches with the help of a white man" plot.

If QT doesnt want people to take his movies seriously, he shouldn't make them about serious topics. There's nothing funny about this.
 

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Kill Bill wasnt about Japanese internment camps, or Chinese railroad workers, or the Vietnamese during our war with them, etc. Kill Bill wasn't about some white person being the key to an Asian accomplishing their goals. Kill Bill wasn't a joke about two very sensitive topics... slavery, and the completely hackneyed overdone "rags to riches with the help of a white man" plot.

If QT doesnt want people to take his movies seriously, he shouldn't make them about serious topics. There's nothing funny about this.

I see, but when the girl is trained to kill by Chinese guy, i.e. white girl saved by Chinese guy, you look past that?

IMHO some of you are getting way to sensitive about a B movie.
 

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I see, but when the girl is trained to kill by Chinese guy, i.e. white girl saved by Chinese guy, you look past that?

IMHO some of you are getting way to sensitive about a B movie.

Let them be sensitive. Its demonic trash friend. Who wants to watch their people get demoralized in a film that revolves around a time that incites peoples sensitivities. You are the one who is actually being insensitive. Its just a movie. Stop right there friend. You expose yourself speaking that demonic TRASH!:ohlawd:
 

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Let them be sensitive. Its demonic trash friend. Who wants to watch their people get demoralized in a film that revolves around a time that incites peoples sensitivities. You are the one who is actually being insensitive. Its just a movie. Stop right there friend. You expose yourself speaking that demonic TRASH!:ohlawd:

Oh in that case then let me apologizes as to not offend the sensibilities of those who are easily offended.

Perhaps now that we've complained about A FUKIN NON SERIOUS MOVIE we can discuss the use of the N word, lack of education, lack of parental involvement in education, lack of employment, drug use, poor graduation rates, ACTUAL RACISM, teen pregnancy rates...I mean that is of course assume we've wrapped up the all so important "New QT Film".

I tell you what goes a lot further
"The racial/ethnic composition of the state’s welfare recipients is diverse. In all welfare
programs, the largest number of persons in 2004 was African Americans, at 745,237,
followed by 724,267 non-Latino Whites and 345,685 Latinos. In 2004, African
Americans were 39.5 percent of welfare recipients and Non-Latino Whites were 38.4
percent of recipients. Latinos were 18.3 percent of recipients."
http://www.robparal.com/downloads/Immigrants_Illinois_welfare.pdf

you really want to change the feeling of "being helped" then start focusing on some of those things i mentioned and not on some lack luster movie.
 

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QT's hood pass is hanging by a thread.

I have tried to play off the feeling I get from Pulp Fiction when they use the word "******" for most of my time on Earth with the movie, but lately I wince and I think I have decided to put Pulp Fiction on the same shelf with Seinfeld for now:

I doubt these works of art are directly out to hurt Black people, but I know for certain that someone VERY insensitive to Black people had a major hand in the work and the people who worked with the insensitive someone knew damn well where they stood and just :yeshrug: and kept their heads down. Louis CK gives me this same feeling. It's not that they hate blacks, just more of a "And? So what?" vibe. That's fine, I don't need them to sympathize with me, and I hope they don't need me to be a fan. We can mutually not give a f*** about one another.

IB didn't sit well with me and I can tell this movie is more of the same pandering. QT seems to like to be able to wade knee deep in race issues without getting his hands dirty. It's the guy at your job who's best friend is black and who grew up in "the city" but EVERY SINGLE convo he has to point out some political or historical fact about Black people. If it involves you - assuming you're black - then it has to prove/disprove some stereotype. This guy is the definition of the word "racist". It's what crosses his mind each and every time his eyes fall on a "minority" (which is funny seeing as how the birth rates officially tipped in favor of "minorities"). He might not HATE other races but he clearly is fixated on them.

I have that feeling about QT. He prolly consoles himself by hanging out with RZA from time to time, but all he can see is a divide between the groups. He thinks he's doing a Jew a favor by "killing" Hitler, but why is QT sitting around all day dwelling on Nazis and Slaves anyway? A perfect excuse to bring out your swastikas and your n words to me.
 

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Oh in that case then let me apologizes as to not offend the sensibilities of those who are easily offended.

Perhaps now that we've complained about A FUKIN NON SERIOUS MOVIE we can discuss the use of the N word, lack of education, lack of parental involvement in education, lack of employment, drug use, poor graduation rates, ACTUAL RACISM, teen pregnancy rates...I mean that is of course assume we've wrapped up the all so important "New QT Film".

I tell you what goes a lot further
"The racial/ethnic composition of the state’s welfare recipients is diverse. In all welfare
programs, the largest number of persons in 2004 was African Americans, at 745,237,
followed by 724,267 non-Latino Whites and 345,685 Latinos. In 2004, African
Americans were 39.5 percent of welfare recipients and Non-Latino Whites were 38.4
percent of recipients. Latinos were 18.3 percent of recipients."
http://www.robparal.com/downloads/Immigrants_Illinois_welfare.pdf

you really want to change the feeling of "being helped" then start focusing on some of those things i mentioned and not on some lack luster movie.
Sensationalist TRASH from you. Just because there are problems in the world does not mean we have to overlook the cism and filth in this QT film. Wrapped up? Sensationalist Trash. Im really surprised at you friend. Dont start bringing up statistics to drown out some brief outrage from the black community. Its sickening. You just bootleg this trash film and dont give a dime to this demonic entity known as quentin tarantino. How i look supporting trash where i get to hear the n-word a million times and get to see a black woman raped by some bigot multiple times. House negroes and brother getting whipped and beat. Thats entertainment where you come from i guess and i can see how your sensibilities would find that entertaining but also, you need to understand how it effects others, friend.
 

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A lot of people in this thread are just saying..."chill, its just a movie" - and this is the problem. Nothing exists in a vacuum. This movie is just one in the many in a pattern which subtly shyts on black people. It doesnt have to be overtly racist, but certain themes and images which play out on screen are very insensitive - and it hits you on a subconscious level. Images are powerful. Just because you cant see it, doesnt mean its not there. The white savior is NOTHING new. From Different Strokes, to Monster's Ball, to Dangerous Minds, Bringing Down the House, The Help. This is how they see us fam.

Oh but this just entertainment right? So was Birth of A Nation...
 
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