DJ Envy and Cesar Piña accused of real estate fraud and scamming - FBI ARRESTS CESAR PĨNA FOR WIRE FRAUD
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blues_funk_reggae
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what gets me about this whole thing is...why people wanna drop thousands/millions in Paterson, NJ? 
the hunt for the next Williamsburg type hood that gets gentrified is crazy
the hunt for the next Williamsburg type hood that gets gentrified is crazy
Not justifting or condoning scamming (i dont do it) but if you gonna do that, theres so many ways to do it LEGALLY. its slow money though. Scammers get caught because they move too quick so they get caught. This is some "they wanted to be caught" shyt. Isnt envys father a cop?
Nothing is going to and should not happen to DJ Envy. It's not his fault nobody did their own due diligence. Just because somebody appears on a radio show does it mean you should invest because they say so.
In The Zone '98
Superstar
Envy/Ceasar promoted their business outside of TBC
Ceaser is his business partner in this endeavor. He can't spin his way outta this one!!
Envy promoted that shyt on TBC lmaoo
Yaboysix
That nikka
Aye, man....this nygga going to jail or not?
I hate folks who take advantage of regular folks
I hate folks who take advantage of regular folks
TELL ME YA CHEESIN FAM?
I walk around a little edgy already
Good thing you are not his lawyer
ManfromNYCest.1900s
Banned
As somebody close to this situation… I’m just going to put all the FACTS out there:
Fetty Wap is in jail for trafficking drugs along the east coast. Caesar people (Nitt da Gritt) put money into Fetty career early on. He got on. When he fell off Envy did a song with him trying to be a Dj Khalid.
Look at where envy did his car shows at and those are the same states Fetty is accused of trafficking drugs to.
The guy speaking (Nitt da Gritt) in the beginning of Fetty big songs was close to Caesar and his brother. That dude had a falling out with Fetty.
Fatboy SSE was also close to Caesar and an investor since he too is from NJ.
The Feds already know stuff and is just holding out for stuff to play out and “certain” people are going to get the Fetty treatment plus more because Fetty was just a bystander who just wanted to rap but was forced to deal with the street element to get hot.
EDIT: Envy stupid anyway because Caesar had no mansion, exotic cars, or money like that before Envy. It seems like Envy just took Caesar word for everything. Envy definitely sat back and took his portion given to him with no questions asked.
Also envy put up the money to rent out the major venues and hotel conference rooms for the real estate seminar. He made his money back plus more. Basically he was like a Harry O except his money originated from a legal place. Those seminars made 6 figure each time. That’s why I hated envy acting like he doing it to help the “community” when he too was making 6 figure from doing those seminars. Caesar could not rent out the high end hotel conference rooms because he’s a felon.
His car shows replace that seminar money. That’s what Rick Ross was saying. Ross car show is more so a networking event hence the $600 fee. Envy car show according to him is “family friendly” but he really is trying to replenish that additional money he was making when he was doing those seminars and charging 200+ a ticket. I remember him renting the Jacob Jarvis center (6,000 seated capacity).
6,000x200=1,200,000
Fetty Wap is in jail for trafficking drugs along the east coast. Caesar people (Nitt da Gritt) put money into Fetty career early on. He got on. When he fell off Envy did a song with him trying to be a Dj Khalid.
Look at where envy did his car shows at and those are the same states Fetty is accused of trafficking drugs to.
The guy speaking (Nitt da Gritt) in the beginning of Fetty big songs was close to Caesar and his brother. That dude had a falling out with Fetty.
Fatboy SSE was also close to Caesar and an investor since he too is from NJ.
The Feds already know stuff and is just holding out for stuff to play out and “certain” people are going to get the Fetty treatment plus more because Fetty was just a bystander who just wanted to rap but was forced to deal with the street element to get hot.
EDIT: Envy stupid anyway because Caesar had no mansion, exotic cars, or money like that before Envy. It seems like Envy just took Caesar word for everything. Envy definitely sat back and took his portion given to him with no questions asked.
Also envy put up the money to rent out the major venues and hotel conference rooms for the real estate seminar. He made his money back plus more. Basically he was like a Harry O except his money originated from a legal place. Those seminars made 6 figure each time. That’s why I hated envy acting like he doing it to help the “community” when he too was making 6 figure from doing those seminars. Caesar could not rent out the high end hotel conference rooms because he’s a felon.
His car shows replace that seminar money. That’s what Rick Ross was saying. Ross car show is more so a networking event hence the $600 fee. Envy car show according to him is “family friendly” but he really is trying to replenish that additional money he was making when he was doing those seminars and charging 200+ a ticket. I remember him renting the Jacob Jarvis center (6,000 seated capacity).
6,000x200=1,200,000
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Do you think Envy gonna cooperate and get off free? And how much prison time you think Caesar is gonna get?
ManfromNYCest.1900s
Banned
Cooperating is hard to do when you’re in denial and abide by hip hop/street rules. That’s who envy is. The least case scenario, he will get Mary j Blige house that he bought for 5.6 million took by the Feds and other assets. The maximum case scenario, he will have to pay restitution. He told joe budden he renewed his iheart contract and took the long term deal which was more money and allowed him to buy Mary house so he might have to pay back the full amount of his long term iheart deal on top of restitution.
As far as his car show being used as a tool to traffic drugs is a whole other thing that most likely will be brought up in his real estate scam case. He could play clueless about that since he was not actually transporting the cars himself just the promoter and organizer of the event. But who knows.
Edit: Caesar has priors for doing the same thing so his court fight will be harder for him. He can either get off light with 5-10 OR the Bernie Madoff treatment. He deliberately sold the same house to multiple people so there’s other agencies besides the Feds that may attack him. The Feds will only attack him for the money and the untraceable cash that flowed through his hands.
Damn. I don't think Envy will care about abiding by hip hop rules given he has all those kids to support and his expensive lifestyle.