If a team utilized him correctly he'd be the same guy. Playing undersized , he can still get defensive stops, rebound and push the ball on the break. Enough to where there is a major mismatch with his counterpart lagging behind because of Draymonds speed on the break. So yea, he'd need some competent finishers whether it's at the rim or shooters, but he still drives the offense. He just isn't a consistent outside shooter.
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that season playing w/ fringe all stars doesnt outweigh his entire career. and he was playing very well in mark jackson's final year. and let's not forget that he and klay are saving the season with steph out for the second time this yearYou act like there's no in-between from averaging superstar numbers and being a complete scrub/one of the worst players in basketball. No HOFer/star player is turning into a scrub without talent around them. Only role players do that
ofc, lets not forget what he did to Jaylen and Alfred and all those racists in the crowd in g6 of the finals last year
the guy who, in 2 seasons, was traded from a contender in the clippers, then got traded to memphis...then traded to minnesota....then traded to the jazz....then traded to the lakers....then traded to orlando....then waived by orlando....and now in chicago?Ill take Pat Bev at half the price
Offensively is the big issue though. He needs stars that are all willing to cut and run around willingly, with frequency.
Again he would still be really good but I think most teams he'd go to, it would run its course after a couple years
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that season playing w/ fringe all stars doesnt outweigh his entire career. and he was playing very well in mark jackson's final year. and let's not forget that he and klay are saving the season with steph out for the second time this year
ofc, lets not forget what he did to Jaylen and Alfred and all those racists in the crowd in g6 of the finals last year
Yeah...so he plays well with superstars around him and is terrible with no talent around him. Textbook role player.Oh, and if Kerr didn't bench Dray's trash ass in Game 4 (gutsy move by him too
), there would be an 18th banner in the rafters in Boston right nowso basically Dray's career if the Warriors didn't draft himthe guy who, in 2 seasons, was traded from a contender in the clippers, then got traded to memphis...then traded to minnesota....then traded to the jazz....then traded to the lakers....then traded to orlando....then waived by orlando....and now in chicago?
which superstar is he playing with?
Oh, and if Kerr didn't bench Dray's trash ass in Game 4 (gutsy move by him too
y'all say klay aint a superstar, and Wiggins and steph have missed nearly 50 games combined this season
nikkas (including me) was saying he's gonna quit when steph got injured. steph's been injuried TWICE and he's still holding it down with Klay (both of whom are 33 years old)
oh, And he came back and shytted on brown and horford to close out games 5 and 6. All that dikkeating when horford went off in game 1, and draymond shut his ass down in game 2
so let's get this straight, your franchise player was locked up by a bust, and your second best player and third best was locked up by a role player....on the way to getting his 4th ring. nice. and not to mention....your DPOY guard wasn't able to stop the opposing guard from DOMINATING your historic defense. Sick
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Again, pat bev played with multiple superstars (Harden, Lebron, Kawhi) and still got traded. u gotta be valuable enough. and draymond has proved that he is multiple times.so basically Dray's career if the Warriors didn't draft him
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which superstar is he playing with?
y'all say klay aint a superstar, and Wiggins and steph have missed nearly 50 games combined this season
nikkas (including me) was saying he's gonna quit when steph got injured. steph's been injuried TWICE and he's still holding it down with Klay (both of whom are 33 years old)
oh, And he came back and shytted on brown and horford to close out games 5 and 6. All that dikkeating when horford went off in game 1, and draymond shut his ass down in game 2
so let's get this straight, your franchise player was locked up by a bust, and your second best player and third best was locked up by a role player....on the way to getting his 4th ring. nice. and not to mention....your DPOY guard wasn't able to stop the opposing guard from DOMINATING your historic defense. Sick
Klay has returned to form, and the Warriors are still decent at best. Their current streak is them taking advantage of an easy portion of the schedule. Dray, nor the Warriors are doing anything special.Draymond's benching in Game 4 turned the series. We already "got that straight". A hobbled C's team coming off two 7 game series where basically every rotation player got nicked up basically ran out of steam. The Warriors defended them worse than the Bucks and Heat did. The C's just missed easy shots and racked up unforced turnovers (a direct result of fatigue).
"taking advantage of the easier part of the schedule" is something they couldn't do before Klay and Draymond both stepped it up, and they saved this season
Draymond's benching in Game 4 turned the series. We already "got that straight". A hobbled C's team coming off two 7 game series where basically every rotation player got nicked up basically ran out of steam. The Warriors defended them worse than the Bucks and Heat did. The C's just missed easy shots and racked up unforced turnovers (a direct result of fatigue).
The warriors figuring out that Tatum and Brown can't dribble for shyt changed the series. That's why they couldn't do anything. No one tryna hear all that "they were tired" shyt. The warriors had their own injuries to deal with throughout the playoffs. Y'all inability to take down a bucks team missing their 2nd best player and a hobbled Heat team earlier is your issue. Didn't steph get an ankle injury in game 3 or am i imagining things? the same injury he got from marcus smart before the season ended if im not mistaken. Didnt gary have a fractured elbow that took him out of 2 series? didnt iguodala also miss 3 consecutive series? Didn't Otto Porter miss time in rounds 2 and 3 before the finals with a foot injury?
The bullshyt shooting y'all had in G1 of the finals left (and in g7 vs the bucks too for that matter). Draymond figured out tatum and brown and held down the team defense. Celtics wouldve lost in 5 if not for that. next time tell Brown to wipe the beard oil off his hands and tell tatum to tone down the Soul Glo
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"taking advantage of the easier part of the schedule" is something they couldn't do before Klay and Draymond both stepped it up, and they saved this season
The warriors figuring out that Tatum and Brown can't dribble for shyt changed the series. That's why they couldn't do anything. No one tryna hear all that "they were tired" shyt. The warriors had their own injuries to deal with throughout the playoffs. Y'all inability to take down a bucks team missing their 2nd best player and a hobbled Heat team earlier is your issue.
The bullshyt shooting y'all had in G1 of the finals left (and in g7 vs the bucks too for that matter). Celtics wouldve lost in 5 if not for that. next time tell Brown to wipe the beard oil off his hands and tell tatum to tone down the Soul Glo
So you want me to give the Warriors credit for going from being trash, to being mediocre? Oh man, what a turnaround! 
You sound like you didn't watch the Playoffs at all. The Bucks and Heat both put WAY more pressure on the C's ball handlers than the Warriors did. Like, it's not even close either. They were hounding them with Jrue, Wes Matthews, Hill/Carter (Bucks) and Jimmy, Tucker, Oladipo, Lowry (Heat). The C's got into their offense MUCH easier against the Warriors. It came down to missing shots they normally make and unforced errors (fatigue and being banged up).
they the 5 seed. were as bad as the 11 seed. that's a clear turnaround.
You sound like you didn't watch the Playoffs at all. The Bucks and Heat both put WAY more pressure on the C's ball handlers than the Warriors did. Like, it's not even close either. They were hounding them with Jrue, Wes Matthews, Hill/Carter (Bucks) and Jimmy, Tucker, Oladipo, Lowry (Heat). The C's got into their offense MUCH easier against the Warriors. It came down to missing shots they normally make and unforced errors (fatigue and being banged up).
u right. 35 year old wes matthews did lock up tatum. and the warriors pressured them well between Wiggins, GP2, Draymond and Klay. if u disagree that's fine. But we were the best defense before draymond went down for nearly ~2 months because of a back injury and klay missing 2 years of his prime. And y'all had 2 stars who were like 24 and 25. No one tryna hear all that fatigue shyt when Steph and Draymond and Klay are around 8-9 years older than them playing in 5 straight finals. They got figured out and outcoached and outplayed. Tatum and brown weren't good enough or smart enough to adjust in time against a team that everyone said was done winning chips.
PBev didn't hit a proper growth spurtAgain, pat bev played with multiple superstars (Harden, Lebron, Kawhi) and still got traded. u gotta be valuable enough. and draymond has proved that he is multiple times.
imagine if he was 6'8
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No, but those teams made it a point to hound the ballhandlers all night for the entire series. It didn't work obviously, because the C's won both series and they played well. Just say you didn't watch
The Warriors didn't put the same pressure on them at all. The only thing they "figured out" was the fact that the C's were worn down. The C's offense and shot quality was better in the Warriors series than the Heat and Bucks series. They just had more missed open shots and unforced turnovers. That was the series. The Warriors had a cupcake path to the Finals. The only healthy team they faced was the Mavs, who benefited from a Suns meltdown. They weren't worn down like the C's were.