Dikembe Mutombo: I would leave today’s NBA stars in the HOSPITAL

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

It is not really up for debate.

Oh, I know it's not, but you're in the wrong.

 

[shadowking]

You missed the point just like the other guy who quoted me.

The dude ... lets put it this way, if dude wasn't a famous, millionaire athlete, that voice would be a p*ssy-repellent.

Please tell me what does speaking nine-languages have to do with what I said? Mutombo sounds like a monster; just a monster who speaks nine languages.

This is what an olodo says

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

I think what he is saying is, without the same physicality in the game, B list and C list guys are look like A-listers. I actually agree.

I think if you can't guard Mahmoud Abul-Rauf, as quick as he was, he'd average 30, provided he was willing to take on that load. It is simply easier to scorer in today's NBA, and players who played in the modern era and late-90s all attest to the significant decrease in physicality, and how it affects scoring.

Yup, it's a big difference if you can't touch a guard who is facing the basket.

How effective would Curry be if you can hold his hip on the perimeter?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Yup, it's a big difference if you can't touch a guard who is facing the basket.

How effective would Curry be if you can hold his hip on the perimeter?

Please tell me you're not serious......

 

[Rigby.]

Mahmoud Abdul with GSW’s system and some of the shyt Curry gets away with in the regular season would be probably would be the best player we’ve ever seen

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

Please tell me you're not serious......

Pretty simple question.

IMO, Being able to hand check Curry would also expose his overrated handle, which is only amplified cause he is an over worldly shooter.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Pretty simple question.

IMO, Being able to hand check Curry would also expose his overrated handle, which is only amplified cause he is an over worldly shooter.

How exactly is Curry's handle "overrated"?

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

How exactly is Curry's handle "overrated"?

His shot opens up everything. Including his handle and passing. It also opens the floor up for his teammates.

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

It's no hate. Most players best attribute makes other aspects of their game easier for them to execute.

Seems like common knowledge. Guess not.

 

[TKOK]

Prime Shaq would literally kill these centers today

Prime shaq would be Chris Dudleying like 90% of the centers in today's game.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

His shot opens up everything. Including his handle and passing. It also opens the floor up for his teammates.

How is it overrated though? I want you to explain how it is. I also want you to explain how (prior to Durant's arrival) he was the heaviest guarded player, perhaps in NBA history, where defenders would regularly get away with hand-checking and holding, would be drastically different to the 90s with less abled defenders, less defensive attention (are you forgetting zone defense?) and just more room in general to get his shot off because he doesn't have to be worried about 2-3 defenders in his vicinity?

And real hand-checking was eliminated well before the 90s, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Prime shaq would be Chris Dudleying like 90% of the centers in today's game.

Prime Shaq would be less effective in today's game because he'd need to be able to defend out on the perimeter more regularly. That's not to say he still wouldn't dominate, he'd just be less effective.

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

How is it overrated though? I want you to explain how it is. I also want you to explain how (prior to Durant's arrival) he was the heaviest guarded player, perhaps in NBA history, where defenders would regularly get away with hand-checking and holding, would be drastically different to the 90s with less abled defenders, less defensive attention (are you forgetting zone defense?) and just more room in general to get his shot off because he doesn't have to be worried about 2-3 defenders in his vicinity?

And real hand-checking was eliminated well before the 90s, so I don't know what the hell you're talking about.

Hand checking really wasn't enforced till about mid to late 90s at the earliest.

If Lebron is able to hold and ride the hip of Curry from the half court line it would be harder to get his shot off.

At the same time having a godly ability to shot from distance will force defenders to over guard you to the point where a jab step or an average/ above average first step will have you looking like an elite handler.

Hell, Curry was barely breaking down Love.

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

Hand checking really wasn't enforced till about mid to late 90s at the earliest..

What exactly are you trying to say here?

If Lebron is able to hold and ride the hip of Curry from the half court line it would be harder to get his shot off.

I don't know if you've noticed or not but Curry has players doing that to him regularly, more than any other ball-handler. Never mind the fact that Curry's handle is good enough to lose players who try to play him that close anyway.

At the same time having a godly ability to shot from distance will force defenders to over guard you to the point where a jab step or an average/ above average first step will have you looking like an elite handler..

Except Curry is an elite ball-handler.

Hell, Curry was barely breaking down Love.

Your really gonna single out a couple possessions during ONE game where his mobility was limited as reason for his handle being overrated?







By that logic, if Curry can break down all those defenders in the above clips, but he had trouble breaking down Love, that must mean you believe Love is one of the best defenders in the league?

 

[Cynical Thoughts]

What exactly are you trying to say here?

I don't know if you've noticed or not but Curry has players doing that to him regularly, more than any other ball-handler. Never mind the fact that Curry's handle is good enough to lose players who try to play him that close anyway.

Except Curry is an elite ball-handler.



Your really gonna single out a couple possessions during ONE game where his mobility was limited as reason for his handle being overrated?







By that logic, if Curry can break down all those defenders in the above clips, but he had trouble breaking down Love, that must mean you believe Love is one of the best defenders in the league?

Hand checking was illegal but it wasn't being enforced. Like on the players who flop, Illegal screens, carrying etc.
They began enforcing for the very reason of opening up the floor for perimeter ball handlers. Of course it may be a light version of it happening but nothing that the refs feel will actually inhibit the ball handler.

I don't think Curry is an elite ball handler although he is very good to great I may be splitting hairs. I think he's on par with a Eric Gordon.

You're right I shouldnt single out one play but if Kyrie is on the floor in any capacity I don't think that happens to him. For that matter, I think Kyrie(overrated 3 point shooter)gets his shot off cause of his elite ball handling.

Those are nice highlights, I just think his handle is overrated cause defenders over guard for the shot. It really doesn't matter cause he has the shot though.

It was light hand checking at best in some of those vids of you can even call it that.

Imagine defenders actually being able to HOLD a hand and bump Curry up the floor.