Yup, and that is where people confuse Rush Management(Russ) with Def Jam(Rick). Like you say Ra, Russ and Rick needed each other.
Great post Ra..
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Yup, and that is where people confuse Rush Management(Russ) with Def Jam(Rick). Like you say Ra, Russ and Rick needed each other.
Great post Ra..
Rakim Allah
Superstar
Man Def Jam had it locked with Rush Management. They damn near managed 60% of the Hip Hop Elite in the 80s/Early 90s. From Eric B & Rakim to Dj Jazzy Jeff & Fresh Prince to KMD!!
Def Jam is still the BEST Hip Hop label Hip Hop has ever seen good or bad!!
Rakim Allah
Superstar
We(Black folks) are the 1st to sell the last to profit!!
Piff Perkins
Veteran
I'm so tired of this never ending attempt to portray non-blacks as foreign raiders and hijackers of no worth. Whether it's Eminem or Lyor, shyt is stupid. Lyor worked his way up like the other top dudes at Def Jam. Unlike Russell, he stayed in the music business. Yall acting like Rus got played or some shyt - last I checked he's rich as fukk, married/divorced a fine ass chick, and now walks around in slippers all day cuz he don't have to do shyt but yoga.
Blacks and Jews built hip hop, everyone knows that. Blacks had the music, many of the Jews had the start up money. Both sides ate good - well, on the executive side. The artists got fukked over by both blacks and Jews. We gonna pretend like Russell wasn't money grubbing and playing dudes? Come on, fukkouttahere with the sucker shyt.
I respect Lyor. I respect Rick. They're pioneers and worked hard. nikkas need to stop complaining about whites and Jews and go get some paper, god damn.
It's mind boggling when you think about it. Money and success changes everything. Which then leads us to debating who sold out who..
Rakim Allah
Superstar
I'm so tired of this never ending attempt to portray non-blacks as foreign raiders and hijackers of no worth. Whether it's Eminem or Lyor, shyt is stupid. Lyor worked his way up like the other top dudes at Def Jam. Unlike Russell, he stayed in the music business. Yall acting like Rus got played or some shyt - last I checked he's rich as fukk, married/divorced a fine ass chick, and now walks around in slippers all day cuz he don't have to do shyt but yoga.
Blacks and Jews built hip hop, everyone knows that. Blacks had the music, many of the Jews had the start up money. Both sides ate good - well, on the executive side. The artists got fukked over by both blacks and Jews. We gonna pretend like Russell wasn't money grubbing and playing dudes? Come on, fukkouttahere with the sucker shyt.
I respect Lyor. I respect Rick. They're pioneers and worked hard. nikkas need to stop complaining about whites and Jews and go get some paper, god damn.
"Jews Run it/Niccas Run around in it" - Ras Kass
Rakim Allah
Superstar
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Rakim Allah
Superstar
It's mind boggling when you think about it. Money and success changes everything. Which then leads us to debating who sold out who..
If U wanna make a lot of money U have to sell something right...pieces of your soul get used as a bargaining chip every time!!
Rakim Allah
Superstar
I'm so tired of this never ending attempt to portray non-blacks as foreign raiders and hijackers of no worth. Whether it's Eminem or Lyor, shyt is stupid. Lyor worked his way up like the other top dudes at Def Jam. Unlike Russell, he stayed in the music business. Yall acting like Rus got played or some shyt - last I checked he's rich as fukk, married/divorced a fine ass chick, and now walks around in slippers all day cuz he don't have to do shyt but yoga.
Blacks and Jews built hip hop, everyone knows that. Blacks had the music, many of the Jews had the start up money. Both sides ate good - well, on the executive side. The artists got fukked over by both blacks and Jews. We gonna pretend like Russell wasn't money grubbing and playing dudes? Come on, fukkouttahere with the sucker shyt.
I respect Lyor. I respect Rick. They're pioneers and worked hard. nikkas need to stop complaining about whites and Jews and go get some paper, god damn.
Fake Jews didn't built sh!t...they exploited it. Poor Black and Spanish kids built this Hip Hop Culture we know and love!!
Sellin out her korean culture
u know other races don't have the same standards of sellin out as us...she probaly is already considered a disgrace to most koreans for marryin a black man...ur kis names reflect that of a culture who let's be honest probaly looks at those kids as animals...cmon Russ@cole cash zack is just an example of a stereotypical white name,u can replace it with Becky, Logan or any other white name,I wouldn't be comfortable with that.
Hannibal Fox
Eetwidomayloh
The kids don't have black names rubs me the wrong way,straigh asian from what I remember...might not mean much but its exhibit C of russell sellin out his culture imomaybe its just me but ill be damned if I married a white chick and she tried to name my son Zachary.
Ehh are you serious, I mean your typing in English.
Sellin out her korean culture
@cole cash zack is just an example of a stereotypical white name,u can replace it with Becky, Logan or you any other white name,I wouldn't be comfortable with that.
You say this like people actually give their kids African names on a daily basis. A lot of people in this country either don't know, don't care, or have no intention of keeping up with a tradition and culture they are so far removed from. If you are an African American in the United States and your ancestors were slaves at one point they more than likely sacrificed their past and their names and took the names of their slave masters. Most families still have those slave names to this day. I don't see someone running around calling for everyone to drop their names and if they don't they are a sell out. No one in my family has a name attached to anything cultural significant(unless you count Michael I guess). No one cares. If this kid grows up and doesn't like the name and wants to be on some Afro-centric **** then he can do that.
You say this like people actually give their kids African names on a daily basis. A lot of people in this country either don't know, don't care, or have no intention of keeping up with a tradition and culture they are so far removed from. If you are an African American in the United States and your ancestors were slaves at one point they more than likely sacrificed their past and their names and took the names of their slave masters. Most families still have those slave names to this day. I don't see someone running around calling for everyone to drop their names and if they don't they are a sell out. No one in my family has a name attached to anything cultural significant(unless you count Michael I guess). No one cares. If this kid grows up and doesn't like the name and wants to be on some Afro-centric **** then he can do that.
A sacrifice is an offering for a higher purpose e.g. God. Black people didn't sacrifice their names. It was forcibly removed and thrown away and beat out of them.
You must be cac.
BTW Sc00n is pretty much on the money. He didn't say Lyor is an idiot and that he didn't deliver some great results. He said had Lyor Cohen been Jermaine Jahlil Washington, Russ would not have given him that opportunity. There's a lack of respect in the back community between each other and it is permeated through every facet of life including business.
