"DESTINY" 2014-15 Chicago Bulls Season Thread

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ANYBODY RECOGNIZE THIS GUY IN THE PIC WITH ME?
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Which one are you?
 

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Deng never asked or was promised max money - at his age and with the Cavs debacle there was no one willing to pay that. He was firm at 10-12mil. Similar deal that he asked from the Bulls

Jimmy on the other hand is still htting his prime and teams will be more proned to secure his services long term. I think tht's the difference that being missed here.
I never said he specifically asked for max. I said the talk was thst he could command max, on this board, others and it was a few articles that suggested it. Many were using what igudola got as a measuring stick for what deng could command 14.5-15 mill and then it was many reports of the Lakers and dallas being willing to give it to him.

He hits the open market and got 10 mill. If jimmy is not a huge part of us winning the title and we go home before the finals I can see the same narrative with him happening.

Kawhi is a finals mvp who just gave it to lebron on a national stage, he can command 15 mill. Klay is a 2 way player who is a elite all star quality offensive weapon. He can command 15 mill

Jimmy is not on they level. And it would be silly for us to treat him as such without him earning it.
 

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And I hate doing this, because now everytime jimmy has a great game people will be looking at me like I called the man a scrub or something and saying trade him. Lol I'm awaiting the trolling

But I think dude a stud. Just not a max player stud. And if he turned down 11 mill and the reports were that they were 4 mill apart in negotiations. Then that means jimmy in there asking for max. I got a feeling many would be calling the bulls dumb as hell for handing him a max. If jimmy asking for max, then this scenario is best for him. Earn that max this season and show you worth that kind of money. But man yall talking just give it to him as I'd he has made 2 all star teams got us past the 2nd rd carried us in scoring while rose was out and won defensive player of the year or something. Nate robinson was the sole reason we got past Brooklyn that year, should we have given him 10 mill? Cmon brehs
 

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Keeping Jimmy is just gonna cost more than any us thought and more than any of would like.His agent is obviously gassing him if he rejected 11 mil a year.I don't agree with butler getting paid equal or more than steph curry,derozan,kemba walker but this new tv deal will get role players broke off.

If the bulls let jimmy walk next summer they are taking a step back and won't have a chance to win the east.There's no replacements period if he shows this year he's can be a more efficient 2 way player he's gonna get paid.
 

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Nate robinson was the sole reason we got past Brooklyn that year, should we have given him 10 mill? Cmon brehs
:aicmon: nate was the sole reason the bulls won game 4 not the series.Noahs game 7 was epic,butler defended williams and johnson after deng and hinrich were injured,and marco hit some clutch shots in game 7
 

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Defensive players don't get Max deals. See iggy, avery Bradley, and Tony Allen.

or like Omer Asik?

Iggy is a bit older since 15-17m is a max deal for Butler, which is what Iggy received. So, Max is relative to that. Butler could definitely get a "max" deal, just to pull him away from the Bulls or make it harder for Bulls salary situation.

But forget about that, Butler isn't just a defensive player and I probably misspoke saying he could get a max deal on defense alone. He can get a max deal with where his offense looks to be going and his current status as one of the top perimeter defenders.
 

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I never said he specifically asked for max. I said the talk was thst he could command max, on this board, others and it was a few articles that suggested it. Many were using what igudola got as a measuring stick for what deng could command 14.5-15 mill and then it was many reports of the Lakers and dallas being willing to give it to him.

He hits the open market and got 10 mill. If jimmy is not a huge part of us winning the title and we go home before the finals I can see the same narrative with him happening.

Kawhi is a finals mvp who just gave it to lebron on a national stage, he can command 15 mill. Klay is a 2 way player who is a elite all star quality offensive weapon. He can command 15 mill

Jimmy is not on they level. And it would be silly for us to treat him as such without him earning it.


There was no realistic talk of him getting a max:stopitslime: not sure who said that on this board - When free agency hit with the Miami the sources all had him asking for ~12m (which he ended up at $10m - ironically enough).

but let's not argue about that, because it's pointless - Kawhi may get $15m because of him hitting/entering his prime and the fact that he's shown glimpses of stardom. Someone may take a risk on him , but that is a risk - he's the 4th option on the defending champions. So, I highly doubt any playoff team is going to give him that kind of money next year (depending on the CBA as well). So he may get max'd out by one of these teams that can't attract star players in free agency and the same could be said of Jimmy Butler (again depending on his performance this year).
 

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KC said he would have taken 4 yr. 50 million which is 12.5M on average we offered 11M with a PO.
 

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"Yeah, get your mic closer," Butler said. "People say I'm chasing money when that's not it. Because I'm going to be in Chicago. I say that with a smile on my face because I know that for a fact. We'll resume (negotiations) back in July."
We left off (talks) on great terms — not just good, great," Butler said. "And our goal is still the same and that's to win a championship.
"This is still home. These are still my guys. This is the team I want to be on. This is the city I want to represent. And that all comes down from the management and ownership, so a lot of respect for everybody that's helped me through the whole process
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