Desiigner may signify the lowest point in NYC rap history (UPDATE: No.1 SONG on Billboard)

[Vinny Lupton]

I think the direction rap has taken in the past couple of years has more to do with the people behind the scenes than fans. This is the era where publications like the Source and XXL hold no weight. It's now about Vice, noisey, complex, etc... and just from what I've observed here being in NYC the people behind the scenes AREN'T hip-hop heads. They're hipsters and rap tourists. But now they're the tastemakers and the people putting these cats on cause they can promote them on their blogs. Most of these cats are white transplants, asians, and gays. A good portion of them are women too. They promote rappers they can relate to...probably the reason why you never see them champion or promote any street rappers. Look at the whole Drake vs Meek situation...who do you think those types were on the side of? Definitely not Meek. Drake is one of their poster boys.

as well, going back to what you was saying about fashionistas and stuff infiltrating the rap industry...I agree. The rappers nowadays that get the most props seem to be more savvy with the hypebeast/KTT/tumblr/instagram crowd than anybody else. That's who's dictating the direction of rap right now...I hate to say it.

This was an overlooked post. Alot of the people who decide what's hot now are nerds from Iowa who moved to NYC. And the artists they push are their friends, or their friend's friends, or their roomate. some of these feminist bloggers be giving up the p*ssy to rappers their magazine/site covers. Other times, it's just that these nerdy dudes just really like shytty, horrible, comedy joke rap. They like the irony of coming from a rich suburb family but they know the newest crap like "cold like Minnesota"

In this Desiigner dudes case, I don't think it's a nerd push though. This is just NYC djs helping another horrible record live. These are the people who let Ron Browz put out all those shytty singles back in 09. The "selfie stick in the club" era lost. The 40 oz van, cardi.b, tastemakers with no actual talent era lost

 

[Drake's Tan]

All the Fab videos posted in this thread

 

[USSInsiders]

Vado is EXACTLY where he is supposed to be. Living in a trash can like the garbage rapper he is

Take that back.....SLIMMMMMMMMMEEEEE....HUHHHHH

 

[IllmaticDelta]

then how come west coast artist usually sound like west coast artist

West Coast sounds have been jacked also. Some of the Western and Southern sounds already had somewhat of a more similar sound than the Boom Bap East Coast which why I think the Mustard sound was able to make it pop in the mainstream.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Queens and ATL always had a connection anyway so I'm not surprised by that. But some cats have NO connection to southern culture. Some of these NY rappers are of Caribbean descent with no connection to the South but they have their accent? How does that even happen? I'm from NY but I'm seeing this daily. NY still has its own culture but the kids music wise are jackin the South but in regular convo sound like NY. They'll have the accent in the music but sound like a regular NY dude in convo.

It's easy to imitate accents of other's that you're familiar with.

 

[Unknown Poster]

Yo....you New York nikkas have lost this hiphop shyt and you are never getting it back.

NEVER

I've come to terms with this.

 

[JayGatsby]

 

[Art Barr]

I, really don't know how y'all trying to even attempt to front on this record.
This shyt is as heavy sonically as coco was and it sounds like it came from the same producer, too.

Now, it is blatant biting and unmistakeable in your actual Gen to your fav artist.
Now, nikkaz trying to deflect and say oh I gotta issue with that.
like they some cultural bboys and were never in the culture of hiphop.
Yet, when it comes to their artist, of their gen,...now, wanna pose cultural based questions and issues.
While excusing every issue and questions before it was their favorite artist.

Y'all did the same shyt to rich homie quan and before he became gay with rich gang.
then tried to front about being gay with young thug.
Y'all accepted that shyt cause y'all definitely dissed shyt the future diss to him originally.
Till, the strip club made it tolerable from overplaying and brainwashing you via oversaturation of playlist.



Art Barr

 

[spliz]

I, really don't know how y'all trying to even attempt to front on this record.
This shyt is as heavy sonically as coco was and it sounds like it came from the same producer, too.

Now, it is blatant biting and unmistakeable in your actual Gen to your fav artist.
Now, nikkaz trying to deflect and say oh I gotta issue with that like they some cultural bboys and were never in the culture of hiphop.
Yet, when it comes to there artist,...now, wanna posse cultural based questions and issues.
While excusing every issue and questions before it was their favorite artist.

Y'all did the same shyt to rich homie quan and before he became gay with rich gang and then tried to front about being gay with young thug.
Y'all accepted that shyt cause y'all definitely dissed shyt the future diss to him originally.
Till, the strip club made it tolerable from overplaying and brainwashing you via oversaturation of playlist.



Art Barr

My point exactly!.

 

[CHERUB]

Man some of comments i read and yall some real weirdos. Like its scary offline yall are probably sociopaths. To troll so hard on the same city day in and day. The dedication is uncanny. And some of you have mutiple accounts talking to yourself. Where are your parents

 

[AnotherRoute]

I, really don't know how y'all trying to even attempt to front on this record.
This shyt is as heavy sonically as coco was and it sounds like it came from the same producer, too.

Now, it is blatant biting and unmistakeable in your actual Gen to your fav artist.
Now, nikkaz trying to deflect and say oh I gotta issue with that like they some cultural bboys and were never in the culture of hiphop.
Yet, when it comes to there artist,...now, wanna posse cultural based questions and issues.
While excusing every issue and questions before it was their favorite artist.

Y'all did the same shyt to rich homie quan and before he became gay with rich gang and then tried to front about being gay with young thug.
Y'all accepted that shyt cause y'all definitely dissed shyt the future diss to him originally.
Till, the strip club made it tolerable from overplaying and brainwashing you via oversaturation of playlist.



Art Barr

Its a bunch of people who have a grudge with NYC that NYC don't have with them. If you listen to them NYC never liked anyone but NYC, revisionist to the fullest.

 

[Chef]

I thought this was an elaborate troll thread after listening. But it's real. Reminds me of that dude from Jim Jones camp who sound like Hov.

 

[Sad Bunny]

anotuer future clone :mjol:

even with the "cyeah, chyea: ad lib

 

[Art Barr]

Its a bunch of people who have a grudge with NYC that NYC don't have with them. If you listen to them NYC never liked anyone but NYC, revisionist to the fullest.

i don't even give that mecca envy bullshyt any credence.
especially since i am down in the south.
when, i don't see any form of any cultural outlets whatsoever down here, period.
i don't even hear nikkaz talk positively about the actual culture of hiphop.
not to mention, the lack of any real verbal slang in communication down here.

just cause you got an accent don't mean you got actual street or verbal slang,.....

shyt is actually swaggerless, as far as fly communication down here.
they have no fly communication.
no wonder nikkaz on here, tell on themselves on here, too.
as, it is an indication.
where they are from they have no lingo, and then trying to criticize.
when, the real actual thing is they are from a swagger less culture deficient zone and trying to front and pose.
like they are in the know. yet as more time passes nikkaz, have exposed themselves, over again.

if you critical of ny, the mecca.
you, have and suffer from mecca envy.
as there is no actual real factual cultural explanation for you to have mecca envy.
plus, real talk,...the people you use to try to point to.
as having complaints about mecca envy.
when, you check back on the real facts.
you see they were a faking jax sellout.
who the actual mecca salvaged and saved their career to make them a solo superstar artist.
then, when said cali artist sold out.
all just because he was no longer skilled and needed ghostwriters and etc.
he took to fueling the prison economy system and started a fake mecca envy based pr run as a group.
which lead to the destruction of the original writers and credibility of the source.
starting the fake journalism in rap that lead to the pr of fraudulent sellout rappers by sellout rnb and rock publications like VIBE AND ROLLING STONES.

so, all the vitroil anyone has for ny is all fake mecca envy and brought on by a fake pr story.
that all toys point to.
ALL because they would not commit to the actual CULTURE OF HIPHOP.


art barr

 

[Art Barr]

I thought this was an elaborate troll thread after listening. But it's real. Reminds me of that dude from Jim Jones camp who sound like Hov.

every artist on autotune is the same type of artist.
so, how is this artist any different from all these others people have accepted in this genre.

this whole genre is about biting and making autotune version based parody bites of every double time style record and rap style.
when, the genre popped up in 2oo9, as an actual artist filled and directed genre.
all the artist bit and still bit off of one another and every record is based on biting and recreating past moments in the ATL roller skating party scene.
which is all a bite of triple six biting bone, and that is a complete copy of ruthless, and chicago westside smoke and ride content based music.

all the shyt is biter shyt and none of it is original and the no one in the genre is an original.

so, how and where is all the anger and vitroil coming from.
it is coming from late to the dance and poser fans of the genre.
who got dirty sprite at best in 2011.
after the over commercialization of racks.
when, it was a 2009 release, originally.

we can at nikkaz on this who was there.
who brought this music to this community.
all, before it was even a net phenom,.. if you want, too.


art barr