Desiigner may signify the lowest point in NYC rap history (UPDATE: No.1 SONG on Billboard)

[Jemmy]

Heard Future heard the song too and doesn't like it at all. Was actually going up to Hot 97 to speak to Flex about it but that's the last I heard about that.

 

[ucanthandlethetruth]

I don't understand you fukk nikkas....

NY rapper on that 90's boom bap shyt =
"shyt wack and boring"

NY rapper adapting to what's hot right now = "dikk riding Future, wanna be south rapper"

Yall just obsessed with NY

this

 

[AJaRuleStan]

I use to say where all the NY producers but they're really out there. Sad thing is the damn Canadians are embracing the NY modern sounding producers more than their own artists from their turf. A lot of NY producers don't even have faith in these new cats enough to work with them cause they all want trap beats. They're following instead of trend setting.

Can you blame them for supplying what the culture is demanding? Among the youth nowadays, I can't tell the difference anymore between queens culture and ATL culture. It is what it is, but me personally, I blame the culture not the artist.

 

[Booker T Garvey]

I blame hipsters for mingling with the hood and creating this new bullshyt.

Dawg...this hipster rap. I don't care what anybody says. Some of these cats look like Ian Connor lookalikes. And you can tell they ain't street. Not that being "street" is a positive or negative, but they have no edge or balls to them. I realize this is where the game is at now. Every rapper is on drugs and not selling them. SExing up waify hipster white bytches, wearing Raf Simons and Kris Van Asche, claiming street for instagram. This shyt is a joke.

agreed 100%...but still...Makkonin was a beautician bruh, a hair dresser in ATL...he's getting kudos from the hip hop community?

is it the women giving these dudes a pass? okaying this shyt?

 

[NvrCMyNut]

I blame hipsters for mingling with the hood and creating this new bullshyt.

Dawg...this hipster rap. I don't care what anybody says. Some of these cats look like Ian Connor lookalikes. And you can tell they ain't street. Not that being "street" is a positive or negative, but they have no edge or balls to them. I realize this is where the game is at now. Every rapper is on drugs and not selling them. SExing up waify hipster white bytches, wearing Raf Simons and Kris Van Asche, claiming street for instagram. This shyt is a joke.

It's bigger than the hood or hiphop. Nyc has become a generic culturally dead city across the board and it's getting worse, even the accents are disappearing.

 

[Unknown Poster]

agreed 100%...but still...Makkonin was a beautician bruh, a hair dresser in ATL...he's getting kudos from the hip hop community?

is it the women giving these dudes a pass? okaying this shyt?

I think the direction rap has taken in the past couple of years has more to do with the people behind the scenes than fans. This is the era where publications like the Source and XXL hold no weight. It's now about Vice, noisey, complex, etc... and just from what I've observed here being in NYC the people behind the scenes AREN'T hip-hop heads. They're hipsters and rap tourists. But now they're the tastemakers and the people putting these cats on cause they can promote them on their blogs. Most of these cats are white transplants, asians, and gays. A good portion of them are women too. They promote rappers they can relate to...probably the reason why you never see them champion or promote any street rappers. Look at the whole Drake vs Meek situation...who do you think those types were on the side of? Definitely not Meek. Drake is one of their poster boys.

as well, going back to what you was saying about fashionistas and stuff infiltrating the rap industry...I agree. The rappers nowadays that get the most props seem to be more savvy with the hypebeast/KTT/tumblr/instagram crowd than anybody else. That's who's dictating the direction of rap right now...I hate to say it.

 

[Drake's Tan]

Panda=This is Why I'm Hot 2016

Song will probably get a lot of play but dude will have a legacy similar to MIMS when it's all said and done.

 

[Unknown Poster]

It's bigger than the hood or hiphop. Nyc has become a generic culturally dead city across the board and it's getting worse, even the accents are disappearing.

I think about this everytime a new Bank of America, Duane Reade, or another soulless glass and steel condo pops up. I agree. This is the result of globalization and the homogenization of art and culture. Not to mention the constant throngs of transplants coming in (I'm a transplant as well, just to get that out of the way). NYC has been losing what makes it unique. The damage is done and it's not reversing itself anytime soon.

 

[Jemmy]

Can you blame them for supplying what the culture is demanding? Among the youth nowadays, I can't tell the difference anymore between queens culture and ATL culture. It is what it is, but me personally, I blame the culture not the artist.

Queens and ATL always had a connection anyway so I'm not surprised by that. But some cats have NO connection to southern culture. Some of these NY rappers are of Caribbean descent with no connection to the South but they have their accent? How does that even happen? I'm from NY but I'm seeing this daily. NY still has its own culture but the kids music wise are jackin the South but in regular convo sound like NY. They'll have the accent in the music but sound like a regular NY dude in convo.

 

[AnotherRoute]

Hearing nikkas speculate and talk shyt in this thread is fukking hilarious. Jah bless you all

 

[Losttribe]

I remember Giving my lil brother outkast first couple albums cuz I wasn't really into it too much.

I remember saying a few jada, wu tang, Jay z songs.. we're "aight" and "so so". I remember saying nas nastradamus album was wack, at first. shyt I remember skipping a few biggie and common sense songs on their tapes. Remember sleeping on tupac and ghostface for years as a kid.

When music like this comes out... then people like young thug start running the game I feel like we heads took maddd shyt for granted.

 

[mortuus est]

my ny selection of music is fire, i dunno what u guys are listening too

 

[AJaRuleStan]

Queens and ATL always had a connection anyway so I'm not surprised by that.

What do you mean?

 

[Art Barr]

That's one of the hardest beats I've heard in my life



The way that shyt just hits you



Legit had me like

You heard the bass mix on vevo.
In the whip now, and killin the trapland.



Art Barr

 

[CourtesyFlush]

Quit lying to yourself god

Its over b

I highly enjoy the music I'm hearing that's all I care about. Enjoy your Young Thug fagget