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That interpretation misses the core of what Coates is saying. He's not demanding lockstep allegiance to a partisan orthodoxy, he's calling out the moral failure of targeting vulnerable people for political gain, and the greater failure of standing by silently while it happens.

This isn't about excluding people who disagree in good faith. It's about recognizing when that "disagreement" is actually an excuse to dehumanize others. There's a difference between having a different policy opinion and actively enabling cruelty. Coates is saying that if you're fine with that kind of cowardice, if you'd look the other way while someone gets metaphorically punched because it helps you win, then no, we're not on the same side. That's not bullying. That's drawing a moral line. And he is right.
He used the inverse of the argument he used for not supporting Democrats over Gaza, but to defend trans people. He completely blew up his own argument.
 

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He is 100% correct, and you see exactly what he's talking about not only on here but also in this emerging movement within the Democratic Party that wants to disengage from standing up for trans people. What Coates is naming isn't just a political calculation, it's a moral one. The hostility toward trans people is not rooted in real concerns or lived experiences. It's manufactured outrage that's being driven by bad-faith actors who can't even name a specific incident in their state, yet are ready to pass laws that scapegoat and harm a tiny, vulnerable population. That's straight up bullying masquerading as policy.
Is it being hostile to trans people to ask them to participate in sports that correspond with the sex that they were born in?

And when people, especially the ones who claim to be on the side of progress, start talking about "pivoting away" from trans rights for the sake of broader appeal, they're only legitimizing that bullying. They're signaling that the lives and dignity of trans people are negotiable. That's cowardice dressed up as pragmatism.
Then what is the “brave” position regarding trans issues? That is also politically viable for Democrats to support?
That's why Coates is right to say this is about character. If you'll let people be brutalized just because they're politically inconvenient, then you're revealing something deep about your [lack of] values. That kind of "strategy" tells marginalized people they're disposable, and that solidarity is only available when it's easy or popular. And when you do that, you're not building a movement. You're building a hierarchy of who gets to be protected and who doesn't.
Participating in sports already has eligibility requirements for example. Look at the para Olympics or special Olympics other sports leagues also have requirements regarding drug testing and other performance enhancing substance requirements. How are trans people being marginalized in any way for following the same rules the rest of us have to follow?


People can claim this is purity politics, but it's not. It's about whether we have the spine to stand up for people who are being targeted purely because they're vulnerable. If we can't even do that, then what's the point in all of this?
Why can’t you articulate what the actual issue that you want Democrats to defend?
 

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No, I am not trolling. You posited a claim that should be easily verifiable with a few polls, can you provide some?




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Please provide it. Cause most questions is about women's sports not trans people in general

So, just like @Loose said, the majority of your post is about women's sports specifically, rather than trans issues as a whole.

You also did not include a breakdown of how women feel about the trans issue, like I initially asked. Can you provide that information? Because you claimed that the majority of women don't support trans issues. Do you have any polls demonstrating your claims specifically?
 

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Why do we need to see someone who’s trans in order to say whether or not they should participate in women’s sports?
There is a really simple answer here. Because otherwise you're trying to create a solution for a problem that doesn't exist.

There is no attack/invasion on women's or men's sports at any level by trans people. You're literally dying on the hill of a hot take that's provocative and scares people. You know, like Hatians eating your pets...
 

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So, just like @Loose said, the majority of your post is about women's sports specifically, rather than trans issues as a whole.

You also did not include a breakdown of how women feel about the trans issue, like I initially asked. Can you provide that information? Because you claimed that the majority of women don't support trans issues. Do you have any polls demonstrating your claims specifically?
There is a really simple answer here. Because otherwise you're trying to create a solution for a problem that doesn't exist.

There is no attack/invasion on women's or men's sports at any level by trans people. You're literally dying on the hill of a hot take that's provocative and scares people. You know, like Hatians eating your pets...

 

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I'm confused, what does this have to do with the question I asked? You stated that the majority of females oppose trans issues?

You narrowed it down to just sports, do you not understand the question or are you deliberately misdirecting?
 

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Elissa Slotkin, the former CIA analyst turned battleground senator, will on Thursday start road-testing what she calls a “war plan” to “contain and defeat Donald Trump.”

In the first of a series of speeches about the Democratic Party’s path out of the wilderness, the Michigan senator said she will span everything from strategy to tactics and tone, acknowledging public perception of the party as “weak and woke” needs to change. She is urging Democrats to “fukking retake the flag” with appeals to voters’ sense of patriotism, to adopt “the goddamn Alpha energy” of Detroit Lions coach Dan Campbell and to embrace an “airing out” of potential 2028 presidential candidates in a broadly contested primary.
Slotkin’s description of the speech as a “war plan” came in a recorded dry-run of the remarks viewed by POLITICO. In an interview, she hedged on whether she would continue to call it that, saying “it’s a military-style operational plan. I don’t understand how to rally us into a coherent approach if we aren’t on the same page on where we’re going.”

Slotkin won her seat last year in a state that Trump carried (and where Trump will return to for a 100 days event Tuesday), defeating Republican challenger Mike Rogers to replace retiring Democratic Sen. Debbie Stabenow. That has given her some cachet among party leaders, operatives, donors and activists following an election in which Democrats wiped out. After delivering Democrats’ official rebuttal to Trump’s speech to a joint session of Congress last month, Slotkin decamped to her farmhouse in Holly, Michigan last month to develop what she is branding as a more robust strategy to oppose Trump.
She urged Democrats considering running for president in 2028 to get in early — “not waiting until 2027, start getting people kind of in circulation —and a broad group of people.”

An aide described her forthcoming remarks as a part buck-up, part come-to-Jesus speech.

Slotkin’s plan lays out why she thinks Democrats suffered sweeping setbacks last year, including focus groups of home-state voters who she said described her party as “weak and woke.” :mjpls: It defines success as winning a number of upcoming battles, including at the Supreme Court.
Her strategy also focuses on language and tone. She said Democrats should stop using the term “oligarchy,” a phrase she said doesn’t resonate beyond coastal institutions, and just say that the party opposes “kings.” And to beat their weak and woke rap, Democrats should channel the “no-bullshyt” energy of the Lions’ Campbell, she said, “A wonderfully sappy guy with his players,” but who is also “smart and tough and lovable.”

Slotkin plans to deliver another speech — which is set to focus on “killing sacred cows” :mjpls:— sometime next month.

“I don’t think we need to hide the fact that Trump is flooding the zone and making us look 12 different ways at the same time,” Slotkin said. “But again, because I come from the national security background, there’s no end to fighting unless you’re dead.”
 
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