Decline in rap quality is correlated to literacy. These rappers now don't read books,don't write, illiterate. No longer intense path b/w poetry to rap

[Art Barr]

Including Gucci Mane?

Including Future? Lil Jon?

Yes,....


You not a bboy like that. I get and appreciate your vitriol. Yet you are flawed.
when it comes to hiphop history.

The mca way is what has always caused an issue in hiphop history and culture. Puff perverted the mca way even more. Than sugar hill or dj hollywood.

I get your vitriol.

Yet you do not have the history accurate.
To properly place blame and should leave the convo to bboys who were there. If you are not going to master hiphop history.
As I noticed regardless. You guys do not want to know or have dialogues about hiphop frfr.


You want to complain. Yet do not do the work.

Bboys know hophop history without fail.

Show and prove.


Art Barr

Art Barr

 

[Wild self]

Yes,....


You not a bboy like that. I get and appreciate your vitriol. Yet you are flawed.
when it comes to hiphop history.

The mca way is what has always caused an issue in hiphop history and culture. Puff perverted the mca way even more. Than sugar hill or dj hollywood.

I get your vitriol.

Yet you do not have the history accurate.
To properly place blame and should leave the convo to bboys who were there. If you are not going to master hiphop history.
As I noticed regardless. You guys do not want to know or have dialogues about hiphop frfr.


You want to complain. Yet do not do the work.

Bboys know hophop history without fail.

Show and prove.


Art Barr

Art Barr

Lets be honest, if the true history of Hip Hop was openly shared and written down and the knowledge passed around the way it should, then the likes of DJ Kool Herc would be Hip Hop national heroes. Keeping knowledge as a secret for a handful of brehs to not break bread to it to the younger generations, is what doomed it.

Can't say a thing when your gen repressed the knowledge as leverage to be better than anyone else, at the expense of Hip Hop's future and history.

 

[Jaguar93]

 

[Karume]

Lets be honest, if the true history of Hip Hop was openly shared and written down and the knowledge passed around the way it should, then the likes of DJ Kool Herc would be Hip Hop national heroes. Keeping knowledge as a secret for a handful of brehs to not break bread to it to the younger generations, is what doomed it.

Can't say a thing when your gen repressed the knowledge as leverage to be better than anyone else, at the expense of Hip Hop's future and history.

it's almost like people took knowledge reigning supreme over nearly everyone seriously

 

[Wild self]

it's almost like people took knowledge reigning supreme over nearly everyone seriously

Can't look down on people who want to IMPROVE themselves intellectually when a handful of people refuse to share the actual History of its artform.

 

[xiceman191]

nikkas really think reading books makes you a good rapper

whats next we gonna diss musicians actually knowing how to use instruments?

 

[mag357]

When you equate being around books and history as "swagless" and "broke" while giving a platform of ignorance and unchecked stupidity as a way to make money and smash hoes, the whole culture took it and never look back. Not only intellectually stupid, but very selfish and anti-community.

That is also who southern hospitality is dead in most areas down south, cause the ignorant brehs made money and harmed/killed anyone that stood in their way, much like CACs. That is why Plies had to hide that he got a nursing degree and why the likes of Gucci Mane was the staple of being 'thoro'

We can literally look at this from every aspect of life and entertainment. Not just rap

Tyler Perry movies. Where is he from.

These corny ass YouTube skit nikkaz. These buffoonish comedians.
All these nikkaz are from a place where they tried to keep the population uneducated. Especially the blacks.
And people left those places to find enlightenment.
There was a reason why we always looked at south nikkaz as slow And backwards.
Things have obviously advanced for everyone all over the country but because they were held back, they are still behind and that buffoonery is ingrained in their culture.

They are the ones who promoted the simp/trick, prostitute, hoe sex culture.
Because one thing stupid people will always have on their mind is sex. And they constantly want to fck and make babies.

Somebody said earlier, when the North and west owned hip hop. That kept the culture at a higher standard when it came to education, lyrics and just certain rules that we lived by.
Doing anything for a hoe was frowned upon, being soft, not being true to ur word, etc.
These were values that we kept from the generation before us.
Yes, we were fcked up but we could at least blame some of our issues on outside forces that put us in the situation.
We still were intelligent..
Even nikkaz in jail still read books and tried to learn new words

Like u said, I saw the change in hip hop and black culture as a whole around the 2000s.
The prevalence of the internet help spread that clown sht to everyone faster and we all adopted their foolishness.
And that was the end

 

[Wild self]

We can literally look at this from every aspect of life and entertainment. Not just rap

Tyler Perry movies. Where is he from.

These corny ass YouTube skit nikkaz. These buffoonish comedians.
All these nikkaz are from a place where they tried to keep the population uneducated. Especially the blacks.
And people left those places to find enlightenment.
There was a reason why we always looked at south nikkaz as slow And backwards.
Things have obviously advanced for everyone all over the country but because they were held back, they are still behind and that buffoonery is ingrained in their culture.

They are the ones who promoted the simp/trick, prostitute, hoe sex culture.
Because one thing stupid people will always have on their mind is sex. And they constantly want to fck and make babies.

Somebody said earlier, when the North and west owned hip hop. That kept the culture at a higher standard when it came to education, lyrics and just certain rules that we lived by.
Doing anything for a hoe was frowned upon, being soft, not being true to ur word, etc.
These were values that we kept from the generation before us.
Yes, we were fcked up but we could at least blame some of our issues on outside forces that put us in the situation.
We still were intelligent..
Even nikkaz in jail still read books and tried to learn new words

Like u said, I saw the change in hip hop and black culture as a whole around the 2000s.
The prevalence of the internet help spread that clown sht to everyone faster and we all adopted their foolishness.
And that was the end

Now that you said it, they flooded music and movies with sub par material, saying that "you hating" if you properly criticize the lack of quality. Why did Tyler Perry throw shade against Spike Lee? Why are sex workers from the mid to late 00s suddenly getting props, with fake butts and titties on media stations?

 

[Spliff]

Weren’t all the old guys a bunch of dropouts in the streets just like the new guys?

Y’all are delusional. Theres nothing special about lyricism

That was the image.

Come to find out someone like Jadakiss went to private school, college, and came from a 2-parent household

 

[Wild self]

That was the image.

Come to find out someone like Jadakiss went to private school, college, and came from a 2-parent household

Yep. Styles P too came from a 2 parent household.

 

[Stone]

At the end of the day a lot of people that consume rap whether black, white or whoever just don’t respect it like that.

It’s just something else to consume

 

[mag357]

Now that you said it, they flooded music and movies with sub par material, saying that "you hating" if you properly criticize the lack of quality. Why did Tyler Perry throw shade against Spike Lee? Why are sex workers from the mid to late 00s suddenly getting props, with fake butts and titties on media stations?

Oh sht.... Definitely

 

[Elim Garak]

 

[Wild self]

At the end of the day a lot of people that consume rap whether black, white or whoever just don’t respect it like that.

They care about the backstory more than the quality itself. SMH

That is how Drill got put on. a Bunch of crash dummy killers decided to pick up a mic, and wanted to make fast(er) money

 

[Sauce Dab]

That was the image.

Come to find out someone like Jadakiss went to private school, college, and came from a 2-parent household

Yep. Styles P too came from a 2 parent household.

Juicy J and project Pat did too. Their dad was a pastor