Decline in rap quality is correlated to literacy. These rappers now don't read books,don't write, illiterate. No longer intense path b/w poetry to rap

[Lil Bape the PostGod]

nikkas really think reading books makes you a good rapper

 

[spliz]

It's not just rap it's a lot of art today. Think about how often you watch a film or TV show today and hear dialogue or argument that are ripped right from social media. We have writers who don't read, actors who don't watch films, rappers who don't listen to rap, singers who don't listen to pop/r&b, etc. A few months ago I saw an interview where Winona Ryder was depressed talking about how when she works with young actresses, none of them will watch older films (for inspiration, performance tips, etc) because the films are too long. Like...how can you be an actor but not watch movies? For writing we have an army of people who refuse to read old books because they are "too white" or too patriarchal or whatever. I'd imagine most of us read novels like 1984 or Lord Of The Flies in school. Now many schools don't require any reading.

And then you get to rap. I have a little cousin who is a Drake fan but won't listen to his earlier albums. She's never heard Take Care or NWTS because i's "old." Hell she hasn't heard Scorpion either, which came out in 2017. I just don't see how this mentality is sustainable. Younger people have ignored older shyt before...that's not new. But this shyt is on another level, given how much access they have to information.

This is the best response in this thread.

 

[spliz]

nikkas really think reading books makes you a good rapper

It contributes in many ways.

 

[spliz]

A lot of them nikkas in the 90s was dumbasses too. Look at Nore , even when I hear Nas talk on interviews I be confused tbh is the same dude that spits that shyt?

Nas hated media and would be high and/or drunk during all of his interviews up until about 2012.

 

[kt773]

As a teacher I agree , half the kids at my school can not read , poor grammar and don’t read anything yet alone write a fukking poem , they don’t even have the kids write compositions anymore, blame the public school system and shytty parents for that

 

[Ku$h Parker]

Vocabulary is one thing but actually knowing what they are saying is another, plenty of 90's rappers were spitting some high tense vocabulary without knowing the shyt they were saying LOL..analysing some of my old mix tapes and underground collection can be bit crazy and upsetting LOL

Das EFX was sooo Deep breh

 

[Art Barr]

I been saying this. Say what you want about the so called elitism of early 90's new york hiphop, but that's the only region that championed actual mic skills and displaying some level of literacy in your rhymes.

Been downhill ever since nikkas started being afraid to call out all this remedial level shyt

This shyt started with puff.

Now that pos is out the paint.
Hold everyone complicit to the fire as well.


Art Barr

 

[Wild self]

I been trying to tell y'all it's the south but nobody is listening lol

We let the people who were the most ghetto and uneducated take over a genre that was ghetto but not uneducated.

Everything that comes from the south is basically buffoonery and ignorance. I'm not just talking about black people.
People used to leave the south to find enlightenment in the north.

Now we listen to them and watch tv shows and movies from there smh

When you equate being around books and history as "swagless" and "broke" while giving a platform of ignorance and unchecked stupidity as a way to make money and smash hoes, the whole culture took it and never look back. Not only intellectually stupid, but very selfish and anti-community.

That is also who southern hospitality is dead in most areas down south, cause the ignorant brehs made money and harmed/killed anyone that stood in their way, much like CACs. That is why Plies had to hide that he got a nursing degree and why the likes of Gucci Mane was the staple of being 'thoro'

 

[Wild self]

This shyt started with puff.

Now that pos is out the paint.
Hold everyone complicit to the fire as well.


Art Barr

Including Gucci Mane?

Including Future? Lil Jon?

 

[Art Barr]

Das EFX was sooo Deep breh

Das efx was dope.

Their stupid iggity biting ass fans and wack rappers.
championing everyone biting.
Along with dumbing down
everything was the issue. That it never went away. When hip-hop protection mechanisms kicked in and used to work.
Till puff using grief from big.
Along with puff's complicit culture theif fans and enablers.
ruined the industry and hiphop culture dually. To the point of no return.
just became more wide spread to where we are now.


Art Barr

 

[Wild self]

Not true.

1) When Crunk blew up, there was still variety. Jon wasn't even the biggest artists out at the time.

2) Lyricists were actually still going platinum in 2003 and 2004. They were actually selling more than Lil Jon. Even Jon had a song on Crunk Juice featuring Jada, Ice Cube, Bun B, Nas, and T.I.

East Coast was ending their reign in 03 and 04. I was a senior in HS back then, and when I saw the hardest of the hardest east coast heads that used to blast MOP, Styles P, Mobb Deep, Lloyd Banks started to blasting Bonecrusher and Lil Scrappy I knew what the time was

04 was the sunset of the East Coast reign and the twilight years of the east coast superthug thanks to the south and (early) Kanye West making major noise. 05 and beyond, Jeezy and others took over and changed the way people approached black music altogether.

 

[7th Letter Specialist]

Ironic literacy is ancient when smartphones are glued to fools hand, while we physically turned pages to read

I think the tactility of actual books helped more than we realized…not only that but I can’t just open up a million porn tabs in the middle of reading

 

[Wild self]

I think the barrier for entry is so low today. Reading about the paths of my favourite rappers; Nas, MF DOOM, Wu Tang........It seemed you had to put a lot of work in for a producer to just consider working on a demo with you. You had to be nice already, unpolished and untested, which means honing your skills for years before any kind of breakthrough.

DMX was rapping hardcore for 12 years and did over 25,000 hours of rapping before he got signed to Def Jam.

 

[mag357]

nikkas really think reading books makes you a good rapper

Aye y'all look.

This is the sht we're talking about


Being intelligent and well read wouldn't make u a good rapper to retarded MFers... You're right.

 

[Wild self]

Aye y'all look.

This is the sht we're talking about


Being intelligent and we'll read wouldn't make u a good to retarded MFers... You're right.

In other countries, those people celebrating ignorance were not allowed to procreate. In America from the Bush Jr era and beyond, they are the centerpieces of this culture.