Decline in rap quality is correlated to literacy. These rappers now don't read books,don't write, illiterate. No longer intense path b/w poetry to rap

[Wild self]

Go do the math.

You supposed to have your knowledge and understanding together first.

Show and prove.

The first problem is.
people not wanting to do the knowledge first.

They have hiphop.com

You start at the essence and build.
Simple as that.

You nikkaz think you gon fool, or flip it and bounce it. When you are not.

Ain't nobody teach me skills or my knowledge. I dug in the crate and built skills.

Then I show and proved. Till you dig in the crate and do the knowledge and build skill.
You will fail.

I built skill..did the knowledge.
To show and prove.


If you not going to show the culture respect and do the same.
You will not get props.

Simple as that.
nikkaz got film on jordan level talent. Then do not want to do the knowledge. Then think they can come outside and get props. With outdated skills. That easily show and prove.
who they are not.

Do the knowledge
Build skill.
show and prove


There is no other way.

all that other shyt is a bloviated excuse.

I am the living thing.
people have in their mind.
They want.
to do.
or be.



Art Barr


Dig in the crate
Do the knowledge
Build skill
Show and prove

There are no more crates to sign into in 2024. This is the digital era. Physical music and even traditional DJ equipment is out of reach for most people.

Name me a Gen Z bboy.

 

[I love Latina women]

It's a lot of reasons.

I think just a big thing is the barrier to entry is lower. Every mf with a laptop can make music now. Even something like having to book studio time was a hurdle that meant you had to be serious about this shyt.

And additionally you've got all the corners being cut, things like ...the punch ins, the "producers" who ain't producing shyt, just recording punched in verses one time, no real musical vocabulary. None of these mfs listen to anything but rap music of the past decade. Ghostface was taking influence from soul music, Rakim was listening to jazz, etc etc

And then there's the death of artist development at the labels.

It's death by a thousand cuts, there's no one reason but the bar has been lowered and lowered and now due to streaming most people treat music as disposable entertainment. And that includes the artists themselves.

^this, ALL of this^. Facts. ALL Facts.

this is hands down one of the best responses to a thread i've ever read in the history of the Coli

great post. dap and +rep

 

[mag357]

It shoukdn't be closed minded people who make blanket statements about an entire group of people vased kn the actions of some or a select few. Your posts in here read like rants from Teump supporters who paint immigrants in a bad light for political reasons.

Bro what I'm saying isn't even a controversial statement.
It's the truth. The south was held back. The north was more educated.
The blacks in the south were kept from learning.
We are seeing the effects of that now.

U might not like it brother, but some things aren't even a debate

Respectfully... No harm intended

 

[WaveGang]

This is revisionist history

We established back in the late 00s that rap became image based

And at some point it went from "who can say the smartest thing on the mic to who has the best image/visuals/vibes" the big shift started with the South, laffy taffy era, then wayne and ended with the ringtone rap era

 

[bl2k8]

This is revisionist history

We established back in the late 00s that rap became image based

And at some point it went from "who can say the smartest thing on the mic to who has the best image/visuals/vibes" started with the South, laffy taffy era, then wayne and ended with the ringtone rap era

Diddy started that shyt with the visuals, but yes this era is probably worse than the ringtone era because the mainstream still had some spitters

 

[WaveGang]

Diddy started that shyt with the visuals, but yes this era is probably worse than the ringtone era because the mainstream still had some spitters

Visuals - Diddy / Drake
VIBES - 2LIVE CREW / Soulja Boy
image - Sir Mixalot / Lil Wayne

They started it but it was never at the forefront over skills until like mid/late 00s. Soulja boy was the first time I realised the kids don't care about skills

 

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[Cryptocurrency Scarface]

Vocabulary is one thing but actually knowing what they are saying is another, plenty of 90's rappers were spitting some high tense vocabulary without knowing the shyt they were saying LOL..analysing some of my old mix tapes and underground collection can be bit crazy and upsetting LOL

I am the astronomical mad scientifical..
Criminal individual lyrical spiritual miracle

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

I am the astronomical mad scientifical..
Criminal individual lyrical spiritual miracle

From the Caucas Mountain to the African Sea
Not near muthafukka want to fukk wit me-
Keith Murray

 

[Conan]

Jay z and Wayne never wrote lyrics and they wrap up circles on circles around Joe Budden. Foh

You must change the reputation of 25 users before you can influence the reputation of the username CrimsonTider again.

 

[Conan]

It's an easy reach to assume the opposite of bare minimum rap we hear today is "lyrical miracle", but the pinnacle of rap in the 90s wasn't lyrical miracle stuff. It wasn't enough to cram words into raps without any meaning, there had to be a purpose, feeling, spacing to the vocabulary.

Someone name a mainstream rap song from this year that matches up to "nikkas Bleed". The wordplay and lyrical mastery is important, but the most important part of the song the storytelling and the buildup of tension to the final verse.

You can't get that by punching in. And you can't get that by just being lyrical miracle. Also, you learn to tell stories partly by reading or hearing stories.

 

[Jaguar93]

Hip hop was going to reach this point. Regardless of what coast is gate keeping it. It’s the natural progression for any form of media. That’s been overexposed, commercialized, and is popular.

 

[HoldThisL]

I blame the consumers as much as I blame the rappers.

It's like the less words in a song, the better the song is.

 

[CodeBlaMeVi]

Majority of rap these days is made for angry antisocial crash dummies who are nothing but a statistic. You'll rarely find a smart successful person listening to music about shooting another man, selling drugs, etc. It's not an uplifting music, it's made to drag you down just like emo music.

Also there is a trend of young MAGA voters listening to rap heavily. It fits their persona: illiterate, ignorant, antisocial.

Basically it's not going away anytime soon because a lot of Americans are dumb. Live in a 1st world country but be dumber than someone from a 3rd world place.

The declining rap streaming numbers along with labels dropping hip-hop acts prove the opposite.