Dec 12 - The Universe Is A Hologram!!!???

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I'm not buying it.

You didn't know your MOTHER cooked for your little brother? :comeon:
I didn't know she cooked for him BEFORE SCHOOL. I had been in college two year prior, like I said whenever I was up at the same time (before going off to college), he was making himself a bowl of cereal. I knew she cooked grilled cheese sandwiches for him, just didn't know she did it before him going to school.
 

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So its hearsay.

Lets say NDEs did happen.

I'm still not believing it cause theres no way to prove it.

Again, i find it HILARIOUS you automatically believe this shyt instead of trying to pin down what actually happened.


I suggest you read into criticisms of those NDE anecdotes. EVERY SINGLE ONE i've ever read had massive flaws and leaps in logic that merely and ultimately rested on what the person who claimed to have the NDE claimed to have experienced.

Even still, that doesn't mean the brain stopped working either. The brain IS capable of soaking shyt up in different states of being. Doesnt mean theres something OUTSIDE of that.



Perception, is not reality.

you might have thought that, but that doesnt mean you really were.


You're a clown you really think I automatically beleived it. There was no alternative explanation is what it all came down to.

As for my out of body experience, it was reality and I was able to verify that through two people who were there. What they were doing at the time, where they were, what car they were in... things I had no way of knowing... before you say memories.. they weren't memories they were things that happened in REAL TIME.

honestly just because you don't beleive it doesn't mean it couldn't have happened... bc seriously who the fukk are you?

Everything you've learned comes from the minds of others you're bringing nothing new to the table so how are you gonna sit here and try to explain things that we're just now starting to put together?
 

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scary? or unexpected?

Doesn't mean what you thought you experienced actually occurred.
I don't understand what you're arguing, all I said that sleep paralysis is scary and nothing more. Stop looking for arguments that aren't there, I know sleep paralysis is your body being in between REM sleep and awake nothing more.
 

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Unresearched anatomy doesn't mean theres something externally acting in relation to "consciousness"

You're reaching deepak chopra levels of bullshyt here.

and what do yuo mean by mental propensities?


Unresearched? Yeah ok, so you have faith that those areas exist but haven't been identified. You're a materialist but don't act like it's proven fact.

Mental propensities? All the kinds of memories and our abilities to wield, decision making, processing information, different kinds of attention, visual perception, mental nodes and schemas. There isn't any theory that connects those things along with the physical anatomy aspect into one big coherent theory which is universally accepted.
 

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I didn't know she cooked for him BEFORE SCHOOL. I had been in college two year prior, like I said whenever I was up at the same time (before going off to college), he was making himself a bowl of cereal. I knew she cooked grilled cheese sandwiches for him, just didn't know she did it before him going to school.

is it really that farfetched for you to be:

1. thinking about your mother and brother
2. thinking about their routine
3. thinking about their preferences
4. combining these aspects into a novel situation?

I mean come on now. You didn't even introduce anything uniquely different.
 

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Oh okay I see what you are saying, I was thinking more on the lines of if somebody makes a claim how do you go about telling if it's real or not. Like if I say there is a red dragon following me but it's invisible to the human eye lol I take it you wouldn't believe me and would be skeptical of my claim. But to your NDE comment I have been reading up on astral projection and from what i'm gathering are thoughts exist in the 4th dimension and when your in that realm anything you think of will manifest instantly. :ohhh: Also now that I think about it everything that we create from computers ,cars , music , art starts as a thought then we manifest it into reality but maybe since we exist on a lower dimension it just takes a lil longer:patrice:. But yea I don't know if it's real but if there is a way we can get to the higher dimension I'm down to try it out
well there couldn't be one but not only would you not be able to see it you wouldn't be able to feel it either unless it was able to pull itself into that frequency... with dimensions something could be so close to you that it's measurable only on a subatomic level and you'd never be able to touch it... it would always be in front of you or on top of you and you'd never feel it or experience it because you don't have the capacity to.
 

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is it really that farfetched for you to be:

1. thinking about your mother and brother
2. thinking about their routine
3. thinking about their preferences
4. combining these aspects into a novel situation?

I mean come on now. You didn't even introduce anything uniquely different.
Not farfetched at all but it doesn't explain why I had that, I guess you can call it a dream, at the exact moment it happened in real life. I had basic dreams like this before but never has it happened in both my dream AND in real life with information I didn't know beforehand.
 

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You're a clown you really think I automatically beleived it. There was no alternative explanation is what it all came down to.
The alternative explaination is a hallucination.

You seem to think people can't have those.

As for my out of body experience, it was reality and I was able to verify that through two people who were there. What they were doing at the time, where they were, what car they were in... things I had no way of knowing... before you say memories.. they weren't memories they were things that happened in REAL TIME.

Prove it.

honestly just because you don't beleive it doesn't mean it couldn't have happened... bc seriously who the fukk are you?
I'm someone who thinks you didn't do what you think you did.
Everything you've learned comes from the minds of others you're bringing nothing new to the table so how are you gonna sit here and try to explain things that we're just now starting to put together?
Hilarious.

Lets discount science cause your little anecdote doesn't fit the paradigm.

I love that deflection: "Well you ain't write the science books!" :rudy:

Really now? :beli:
 

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Why can't it be a coincidence that you dream of that? I mean seriously.

You knew they did all those things in some capacity, correct?
I don't like explaining things as a coincidence, it just sounds so lazy. But yes I knew those things in some capacity but to put it all together RIGHT at the moment it was happening in real life? Sounds like a coincidence but also fits the mold of an OOBE.
 
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