Dec 12 - The Universe Is A Hologram!!!???

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Unresearched? Yeah ok, so you have faith that those areas exist but haven't been identified. You're a materialist but don't act like it's proven fact.

Proven in that theres evidence for it? Yep

and I don't have faith in anything...thats where the evidence leads and what it already suggests.

we are nothing more (AS FAR AS WE KNOW) than the product of our brains.

Mental propensities? All the kinds of memories and our abilities to wield, decision making, processing information, different kinds of attention, visual perception, mental nodes and schemas.

Why do you think humans are only that unique?

Why can't whales be smarter than us? Just we cook our food and have fingers and toes to manipulate objects doesn't mean we're inherently more gifted than any other species.

You think just cause flipper has fins that he can't do calculus if he wanted to?

There isn't any theory that connects those things along with the physical anatomy aspect into one big coherent theory which is universally accepted.

Current theories suggest that we're a product of our minds and thats it.

Then again, I SERIOUSLY doubt you're up on the latest in that field.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I don't like explaining things as a coincidence, it just sounds so lazy. But yes I knew those things in some capacity but to put it all together RIGHT at the moment it was happening in real life? Sounds like a coincidence but also fits the mold of an OOBE.

1. you don't know if it happened AT THAT MOMENT

2. whats wrong with coincidence? Ruins the fun magic moment? The truth sometimes really is unremarkable. You're really trying to make this sounds like something more than what it may actually be.

 

[Poitier]

Proven in that theres evidence for it? Yep

and I don't have faith in anything...thats where the evidence leads and what it already suggests.

we are nothing more (AS FAR AS WE KNOW) than the product of our brains.


Why do you think humans are only that unique?

Why can't whales be smarter than us? Just we cook our food and have fingers and toes to manipulate objects doesn't mean we're inherently more gifted than any other species.

You think just cause flipper has fins that he can't do calculus if he wanted to?



Current theories suggest that we're a product of our minds and thats it.

Then again, I SERIOUSLY doubt you're up on the latest in that field.

Science has suggested many things until actually proven/disproven. Don't talk like materialism is fact until they find every 1:1 relationship.

 

[saint25225]

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[Arishok]

1. you don't know if it happened AT THAT MOMENT

2. whats wrong with coincidence? Ruins the fun magic moment? The truth sometimes really is unremarkable. You're really trying to make this sounds like something more than what it may actually be.

I do know it happened at that moment, I explained that in the story . I'm not trying to make it sound like something more, just explaining that something that happened to me sounded identical to OOBEs but if it is just a coincidence and that's all that be attributed to it that's fine too. But for me to believe that, I would also need evidence as to how it isn't an OOBE? Simply because you don't believe in OOBEs?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Science has suggest many things until actually proven/disproven. Don't talk like materialism is fact until they find every 1:1 relationship.

Why do you have this arbitrary 1:1 ratio bullshyt number? What does that even mean?

Like I said. You keep moving the goalposts.

We already explained how our 5 senses work, in addition to several neurological reflexes and automatic responses as a result of the sympathetic nervous system and we're getting closer to nailing down some of the finer points...where are you going to keep pushing this shyt?

materialism is definitely all we have at this point.

 

[Jazzy B.]

 

[Arishok]

Lol yea it can be scary the first time it happens but from what I been reading they say you are one or two steps from having an OBE once your in sleep paralysis . I don't know if it's true but it seems like its something anybody can test for themselves. So far I been able to get to the SP state then i started to feel these vibrations which is hell crazy lol. Did you experience anything like that?

Nah I just feel a presence either on top of me or around me, like it's watching me or something. The most recent was a while ago in my apartment when I was asleep and I heard my window opening and felt someone just staring at me. Of course when I gained control nothing was there.

 

[Poitier]

we're getting closer to nailing down some of the finer points...where are you going to keep pushing this shyt?

materialism is definitely all we have at this point.

LOL oh really, let me know when they lesion/stimulate/radioactively trace every infintestimal part of the brain that corresponds to every part of perception but until then shut the fukk up. They've been getting close since the 90s LOL


Also, cognitive neuroscience > neuroscience

 

[Chesirecatdaddy]

The alternative explaination is a hallucination.

You seem to think people can't have those.



Prove it.


I'm someone who thinks you didn't do what you think you did.

Hilarious.

Lets discount science cause your little anecdote doesn't fit the paradigm.

I love that deflection: "Well you ain't write the science books!"

Really now?

No that's a logical fallacy ur trying to inject into the argument. You seem to believe that since you have no way of explaining this occurence it must be a hallucination.

What are the chances that I and two other people not in the same place had a hallucination? Very slim.

Now you're asking me for proof to measure something that isn't yet quantifiable or might never be, something people are spending millions of dollars every year researching. The only proof I have is describing the entire event that happened in real time to my friends who were miles away in a place I've never been before and being 100% right.

lol you could post smilies til you're blue in the face ... but you're using information and concepts that could never explain these events. So it's not about you writing the science books, it's about you trying to fit your square into a circle.

Greater minds disagree with you and you can't handle it... and a lot of these minds are actually respected in the scientific community.. you're not even respect on a messageboard breh

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

LOL oh really, let me know when they lesion/stimulate/radioactively trace every infintestimal part of the brain that corresponds to every part of perception but until then shut the fukk up. They've been getting close since the 90s LOL


Also, cognitive neuroscience > neuroscience

cognitive neuro is going the way of the dodo. just wait

and please fall the fukk back already. We've only been radiolabeling things for like...50 years?

and I love how you just move the goalposts. Keep speaking to your fellow plebians thuogh. They need something to keep them warm at night and make them feel more special than they are.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

No that's a logical fallacy ur trying to inject into the argument. You seem to believe that since you have no way of explaining this occurence it must be a hallucination.

Why can't it be a hallucination?

What are the chances that I and two other people not in the same place had a hallucination? Very slim.

how do you know you didn't have similar memories that they had and changed your story to match theirs?

Now you're asking me for proof to measure something that isn't yet quantifiable or might never be, something people are spending millions of dollars every year researching. The only proof I have is describing the entire event that happened in real time to my friends who were miles away in a place I've never been before and being 100% right.

I have NO reason to believe you.

lol you could post smilies til you're blue in the face ... but you're using information and concepts that could never explain these events. So it's not about you writing the science books, it's about you trying to fit your square into a circle.

You're gonna have to do better than this.

Greater minds disagree with you and you can't handle it... and a lot of these minds are actually respected in the scientific community.. you're not even respect on a messageboard breh

Greater minds make discoveries, not speculation.

 

[saint25225]

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[Arishok]

Oh okay from what I been reading the sleep paralysis state is Mind awake body a sleep, also I think that the scariest thing is your own mind since whatever you think of is supposed to manifest from what I been reading. But yea if you just stay calm then you should start feeling some vibrations or something.

Yeah, you read about something enough, you can make it real. I started having massive sleep paralysis when I started reading about demons. My mind must have been so stuck on the subject, it would project these things when I was going through sleep paralysis

 

[Poitier]

cognitive neuro is going the way of the dodo. just wait

We'll see lil nikka