Dec 12 - The Universe Is A Hologram!!!???

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Theres no evidence that actually happened.

FYI you know its also possible to passively hear information right?

The brain remembers and can subconsciously log shyt you're unaware of.

That doesn't mean something is going on OUTSIDE of the brain.

no shyt because there's nothing we can measure to prove it... but the information described was exact and there was no way for the person to know it. I repeat no way. We're not talking about regular people that were stunned... we 're talking about doctors, surgeons, etc. People who believe in only shyt that they can measure. In the words of kanye " you don't have all the answers"
Well I had an OOBE and no one till this day has been able to explain it to me :yeshrug:
I've also had an OOBE I didn't passively hear shyt I was way far away from my body... miles away.
 

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no shyt because there's nothing we can measure to prove it...
So its hearsay.

Lets say NDEs did happen.

I'm still not believing it cause theres no way to prove it.

Again, i find it HILARIOUS you automatically believe this shyt instead of trying to pin down what actually happened.

but the information described was exact and there was no way for the person to know it. I repeat no way. We're not talking about regular people that were stunned... we 're talking about doctors, surgeons, etc. People who believe in only shyt that they can measure. In the words of kanye " you don't have all the answers"
I suggest you read into criticisms of those NDE anecdotes. EVERY SINGLE ONE i've ever read had massive flaws and leaps in logic that merely and ultimately rested on what the person who claimed to have the NDE claimed to have experienced.

Even still, that doesn't mean the brain stopped working either. The brain IS capable of soaking shyt up in different states of being. Doesnt mean theres something OUTSIDE of that.

I've also had an OOBE I didn't passively hear shyt I was way far away from my body... miles away.

Perception, is not reality.

you might have thought that, but that doesnt mean you really were.
 

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Define consciousness :umad:

Awareness? Well thats "easy" to explain.

Consciousness may be nothing more than enhanced pattern recognition.

Not just awareness but the ability to control that awareness of self and environment, at the human level. Not easy to explain how that arises.
 

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1. what happened?

2. why are alternative explanations not good enough for you? thats like wanting to believe 9/11 was an inside job only cause thats what you want to be true.
There were no other alternative explanations to begin with, if someone had one, I'd think on it like I do everything else.

What happened was: I "woke" up and went into the kitchen and watched my mom, in her work uniform, make my younger brother a grilled cheese sandwich before school.

Now I had no knowledge that a) my mom cooked my brother anything before school since being away in college b)if my mother had to work that day or not (her schedule isn't always the same week by week)

So I "stood" there, watched him eat, and followed him to the garbage can. He threw away the sandwich and I went deeper into the trash can until there was nothingness. I then woke up in my bed, confused because I thought I was already awake. When I went into the kitchen, the skillet and spatula were still on the stove. I wen downstairs to ask my other brother if mom went to work and he said yeah. When my younger brother came home, I asked if he ate a grilled cheese this morning and he said yeah. shyt left me :ohhh:, so if that wasn't an OOBE then please tell me what that was because I still don't know to this day.
 

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no shyt because there's nothing we can measure to prove it... but the information described was exact and there was no way for the person to know it. I repeat no way. We're not talking about regular people that were stunned... we 're talking about doctors, surgeons, etc. People who believe in only shyt that they can measure. In the words of kanye " you don't have all the answers"

I've also had an OOBE I didn't passively hear shyt I was way far away from my body... miles away.
I've also had sleep paralysis, ugh. Scariest thing a person can go through.
 

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There were no other alternative explanations to begin with, if someone had one, I'd think on it like I do everything else.

What happened was: I "woke" up and went into the kitchen and watched my mom, in her work uniform, make my younger brother a grilled cheese sandwich before school.

Now I had no knowledge that a) my mom cooked my brother anything before school since being away in college b)if my mother had to work that day or not (her schedule isn't always the same week by week)
why wasn't it a memory of your mother getting ready for work and a dream/hallucination of her prepping food for your brother?

So I "stood" there, watched him eat, and followed him to the garbage can. He threw away the sandwich and I went deeper into the trash can until there was nothingness. I then woke up in my bed, confused because I thought I was already awake. When I went into the kitchen, the skillet and spatula were still on the stove. I wen downstairs to ask my other brother if mom went to work and he said yeah. When my younger brother came home, I asked if he ate a grilled cheese this morning and he said yeah. shyt left me :ohhh:, so if that wasn't an OOBE then please tell me what that was because I still don't know to this day.

Maybe your brother likes grilled cheese and you subconsciously remembered that?

At most you've described a coincidence.
 

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why wasn't it a memory of your mother getting ready for work and a dream/hallucination of her prepping food for your brother?



Maybe your brother likes grilled cheese and you subconsciously remembered that?

At most you've described a coincidence.
Because I didn't know she prepared food for my brother so it couldn't have been a memory. Everytime I was up when my brother was up, he would make himself cereal.
 

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shyt just got real
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Controlling awareness? Thats...explained already :pachaha:

I don't understand what you're asking.

A unified theory of consciousness is not explain already bruh. There isn't a theory that explain how we not only are aware but also have the mental propensities that we do. Stimulating and lesioning certain areas do have 1 : 1 relationships at the anatomy/perceptual level but not all aspects of perception have an area that can be chalked up to anatomy. You already know this though but you like to hear yourself talk.
 

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A unified theory of consciousness is not explain already bruh. There isn't a theory that explain how we not only are aware but also have the mental propensities that we do. Stimulating and lesioning certain areas do have 1 : 1 relationships at the anatomy/perceptual level but not all aspects of perception have an area that can be chalked up to anatomy. You already know this though but you like to hear yourself talk.

Unresearched anatomy doesn't mean theres something externally acting in relation to "consciousness"

You're reaching deepak chopra levels of bullshyt here.

and what do yuo mean by mental propensities?
 
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