Deb Antney (Waka's Mom) says Gucci didn't kill Pookie Loc UPDATE: REAL shooter Identified

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I lived in Virginia Beach, I also knew a brother who used to hang with Malice. They were d-boys, not on a major level, but most dudes outside ain't trapping on a major level. I don't think most cats realize that selling drugs isn't as glamorous as hip hop portrays it, your average drug dealer is basically a paycheck to paycheck brother. There are degrees higher than that but even most dudes doing it at a higher level aren't buying foreign cars, living in luxury type shyt...

Clipse had swagger to their trapping, had a few cars, people know they were out. Then they did get in tune with other guys who were real weight movers and there was some embellishing. The issue with them is that Mal is the more likeable brother of the two, more respected as he was more humble and being older he was outside first. Push is a lot less humble, so he gets shytted on because of it. They both had connections to dudes from wilder hoods and larger traffickers...

Pusha isn't liked enough to have been able to get away with all these coke stories if he never got his hands dirty 😂. Dudes definitely know he put the extras on his shyt but they know he got his hands a little dirty...

The funny thing is the hood Pharell is from is wilder than where Clipse from, but he's rarely rapped about it. He also never dabbled into the streets though, he's always been authentically himself...
Another misconception is that D Boys are violent, that's why I think a lot of people here don't believe certain rappers because they take being a drug dealer/hustler means you were some gun busting wild nikka.

I know a lot of guys who sold drugs on the corner and were herbs. I'm talking get deaded on money, get disrespected, slapped, etc...and wouldn't throw a punch. But they just know how to get to money. They may call on big homies/relatives if they have funk, but them, themselves don't be on shyt. A good portion of them have regular ass jobs too. One of my closest homies, he's a high ranking member in his set, works a regular 9 to 5.
 

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I lived in Virginia Beach, I also knew a brother who used to hang with Malice. They were d-boys, not on a major level, but most dudes outside ain't trapping on a major level. I don't think most cats realize that selling drugs isn't as glamorous as hip hop portrays it, your average drug dealer is basically a paycheck to paycheck brother. There are degrees higher than that but even most dudes doing it at a higher level aren't buying foreign cars, living in luxury type shyt...

Clipse had swagger to their trapping, had a few cars, people know they were out. Then they did get in tune with other guys who were real weight movers and there was some embellishing. The issue with them is that Mal is the more likeable brother of the two, more respected as he was more humble and being older he was outside first. Push is a lot less humble, so he gets shytted on because of it. They both had connections to dudes from wilder hoods and larger traffickers...

Pusha isn't liked enough to have been able to get away with all these coke stories if he never got his hands dirty 😂. Dudes definitely know he put the extras on his shyt but they know he got his hands a little dirty...

The funny thing is the hood Pharell is from is wilder than where Clipse from, but he's rarely rapped about it. He also never dabbled into the streets though, he's always been authentically himself...

Damn that's crazy. You sure right about pusha being unlikable :mjlol:
 

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Another misconception is that D Boys are violent, that's why I think a lot of people here don't believe certain rappers because they take being a drug dealer/hustler means you were some gun busting wild nikka.

I know a lot of guys who sold drugs on the corner and were herbs. I'm talking get deaded on money, get disrespected, slapped, etc...and wouldn't throw a punch. But they just know how to get to money. They may call on big homies/relatives if they have funk, but them, themselves don't be on shyt. A good portion of them have regular ass jobs too. One of my closest homies, he's a high ranking member in his set, works a regular 9 to 5.

Bruh I've described this to guys before several times too. Pusha was a dealer, the locals who would be informed about this, do attest to this. But literally not a soul thinks of him as this wild or tough nikka, because he isn't, and people do have this image in yheir mind like, "Oh if he was selling cocaine he must be American Gangster" 🤣...

One of my best friends during a period I was running around, was a natural hustler, and a straight hoe 🤣. The funny thing is, he could really fight, he wasn't a KO king, and he wasn't the kind of brother who would start a fight. He didn't like fighting and I've both seen and heard of him turning down fades from nikkas who barked on him...

I've also seen and heard of about three scenarios where he had no choice but to run the fade, and in all those scenarios he held his own well 😆. Nobody just washed him, he didn't wash them either, but he held his own each time. He's just a nikka that didn't like violence, he had a natural knack for finding the money...

My guy had several guns at different points we ran together and the only two occasions i know of him busting anything were at his baby mama by herself, and at her and her new boyfriend another time. Never on any gang shyt (though he's a gang member), never on nikkas who robbed him or threatened him or shot at him...

There are guys who can make bread and are serious with the guns but a rule of thumb you learn early is that the dude's who stay consistently up on paper aren't the ones running around clapping shyt, and as you said a whole lot of dudes who sell weed/dope/coke/pills/guns whatever, ain't busting no muhfukking grapes period...

It's always funny having to delve into the nuances of street culture online. I don't mind talking about it, this is the only outlet I really have to do so, but you can tell people's perceptions are largely distant from what guys typically think it's like!
 
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You ever met anybody that knew Jeezy back in the day? If so what they day about him?

I did. I called myself tryna live right and da very first nikka I met was a juugman (and fellow gang member) and he had association with those BMF circles & I was right back on da bullshyt. Mind you, I ain't know shyt bout Jeezy then. That Trap Or Die mixtape was boomin' then and later, TM101. I asked who it was since he'd listen to him all da time & it ended up bein' da soundtrack of da summer since I'd be with him when he'd make plays and midnight runs, a few times coupled with goin' to shake junt after shake junt (especially Platinum 21, now Kamal's 21 & 24K). Said that Jeezy was juugin' but not at da level in which he proclaimed in those songs. It was through him & his "dealings" that I got put onto Jeezy's music. Then Gucci. First song I ever heard by Gucci was "Trap House" which they kept runnin' back over at 24K one night. Then I was on his music HARD. I can't remember if I was schnawtin' then or not. I had just turned 21.
 
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A dude from my high school was signed to Jeezy around 2008-2010..he went by BAMA. It stood for Beat A Motherfukkers Ass but he was born & raised in Atlanta :pachaha:






He was never poised to be a superstar & he probably should have went by another name, but he would tell us Jeezy was hands off on folks signed to him. Nobody he signed or was associated with blew up besides Slick Pulla & Blood Raw, but even those two were local/known only in probably Tennessee, the Carolinas, Bama & Mississippi.

Idk if Jeezy wanted dudes do get it on their own or if he didn’t give a fukk about them, but it’s real noticeable how folks under/with Gucci became big, but we can’t say the same for Jeezy’s associates.





Speaking of SWD..I always thought it was just a school with regular hood kids & nothing extra. I heard y’all was probably just as worst as Towers, Columbia, Cedar Grove & McNair behavior wise :mjlol:


I almost forgot about Bama. Screwww from Savannah was another one. I knew this older gal that knew him and said he had been juugin' since they were in high school. He ended up gettin' jammed up with his folks and allegedly told on some folks.
 

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Jeezy put out a hit on national radio airwaves. Jeezy snitched on himself
this part :dead: i cant believe nikkas in here putting on capes for Jeezy just because gucci been rubbing that L in his face longer than he should have




Jeezy really put a legit hit out on this man and got it played all over, a whole region had a greenlight to come up off of this man :dead:



Jeezy was posted up with The Informant at the birthday party and seen Gucci standin over there

with that black 4 fif
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prolly made him sick to his stomach :mjlol: he deserves this discomfort around Gucci for life imo small price to pay for a failed murder
 

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I did. I called myself tryna live right and da very first nikka I met was a juugman (and fellow gang member) and he had association with those BMF circles & I was right back on da bullshyt. Mind you, I ain't know shyt bout Jeezy then. That Trap Or Die mixtape was boomin' then and later, TM101. I asked who it was since he'd listen to him all da time & it ended up bein' da soundtrack of da summer since I'd be with him when he'd make plays and midnight runs, a few times coupled with goin' to shake junt after shake junt (especially Platinum 21, now Kamal's 21 & 24K). Said that Jeezy was juugin' but not at da level in which he proclaimed in those songs. It was through him & his "dealings" that I got put onto Jeezy's music. Then Gucci. First song I ever heard by Gucci was "Trap House" which they kept runnin' back over at 24K one night. Then I was on his music HARD. I can't remember if I was schnawtin' then or not. I had just turned 21.

I think Trap House might been my first time hearing Gucci too. I do remember when I first heard him was when he was wearing glasses, I did too, muhfukkas used to say I looked like him 😆...

Bruh I've long forgotten the name of that strip joint on Ponce, I probably didn't even really know the name back then. Do you remember any clubs by name that used to be (maybe still is) on Ponce? You too @staticshock?

this part :dead: i cant believe nikkas in here putting on capes for Jeezy just because gucci been rubbing that L in his face longer than he should have




Jeezy really put a legit hit out on this man and got it played all over, a whole region had a greenlight to come up off of this man :dead:



Jeezy was posted up with The Informant at the birthday party and seen Gucci standin over there

with that black 4 fif
3qEWIn.gif



prolly made him sick to his stomach :mjlol: he deserves this discomfort around Gucci for life imo small price to pay for a failed murder

I doubt Jeezy is uncomfortable from this weird ass nikka 🤣 🤣. Jeezy didn't send these dudes to kill fam, a hit is an explicit sale to put a nikka down...

Cats say this is Jeezy's L, how? There's never been real information that besides a generic statement made on air talking shyt about a dude he considers a chump, he gave an explicit and direct hit to the group of dudes who ran down on Gucci...

You can tell the nikkas who ran down weren't some nikkas who were true to the shyt because it was more of them and they took off when homeboy started shooting back. Probably only had one gun between them all. These were some dudes with only the loosest of ties to Jeezy, and not some nikkas who were experienced hit men. This wasn't a "hit" my guy, dudes are not placing a hit on airwaves...

This was light talking about a guy he deems was a sucker...

This dude ran pointing off at Jeezy as soon as he got jammed, if Jeezy wanted to smack him Wop already made sure all signs went back to Jeezy. If Jeezy wanted him smacked it was probably more off the strength of homie's continuous bytching, then continuous gassing himself, off the shyt, rather than any revenge for some flunkies he barely knew...

I'd have wanted to smack him down just for acting like some American Gangster in the aftermath. I'm also smart enough to realize I have no leverage in the situation to do so, let him talk himself up. I know he ain't like that...
 
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