Deb Antney (Waka's Mom) says Gucci didn't kill Pookie Loc UPDATE: REAL shooter Identified

[RennisDeynolds]

Nah never met anyone who knew Jeezy. I think it's pretty understood within that culture that he saw some real money before rap. He would be one of very few rappers who came into the game with real paper from dealing, pre-celebrity...

Nobody I've known has ever questioned that, there have been dudes who tried to play him like a BMF flunky, dudes who have said he "soft" in terms of getting busy himself, but as far back as people can trace he was a weight man, dude was trapping really young and had spots in a couple states, alota shyt people who don't like Snow said about him came from the natural envy of cats hating on brothers who have more money and flaunt it...

Both Jeezy and Gucci are street guys but from two different lanes. And their initial beef way the fukk back always felt, to me at least, like it was in part motivated by some envy from Gucci's end. I don't know if early ass interviews and videos are still available online but Gucci was kind of a fan of Jeezy on that tip (money), if you read his body language and how he talked. It's like he looked up to Jeezy a little, and in the aftermath of their fallout seemed to be a hint of envy with fam...

Jeezy got dissed so much in the rap game people don't even respect him like that anymore

 

[Who Not How]

Nobody has ever said that Gucci dumped his body or buried dude.

When Gucci shot back & hit ol dude, they all ran out the apartment. They all got in a car & dipped back to Macon except for the dude who actually got hit..they left him behind. He ran into a wooded area & eventually collapsed and died. The wooded area just so happened to be next to Columbia Middle School in east Atlanta.

I didn't know they was over there when this went down.

 

[murksiderock]

Jeezy got dissed so much in the rap game people don't even respect him like that anymore

Bruh I'll refrain from using the clichéd and misused "real ones" phrase, but guys of a certain maturity and mental bandwidth still respect Jeezy...

Cats tried to play him out like he sent Pookie on a dummy mission, then people played him like he should've have gotten some getback on Gucci for Pookie's death, never mind any other factors, like this talking ass nikka Wop telling literally EVERYBODY who would listen that Jeezy sent for him. So theoretically if Jeezy wanted "revenge" for Pookie's death, who the fukk comes out on the winning side of that? Not Jeezy...

Cats have played Jeezy on his relationships with women, his relationship with his oldest son. People have criticized his toughness since he's not known as a guy who was punishing nikkas in the streets, dudes ran with that BMF do-boy shyt for years, then called him disloyal, all kind of shyt. Say he's soft because he let Gucci diss him for years over that body...

I've never questioned Jeezy's character. It became cool to diss Jeezy over the years but that had as much to do with people's dikkriding and infatuation with Sir Talk A Lot's tough guy projection, rather than anything Jeezy did or didn't do himself...

 

[RennisDeynolds]

Bruh I'll refrain from using the clichéd and misused "real ones" phrase, but guys of a certain maturity and mental bandwidth still respect Jeezy...

Cats tried to play him out like he sent Pookie on a dummy mission, then people played him like he should've have gotten some getback on Gucci for Pookie's death, never mind any other factors, like this talking ass nikka Wop telling literally EVERYBODY who would listen that Jeezy sent for him. So theoretically if Jeezy wanted "revenge" for Pookie's death, who the fukk comes out on the winning side of that? Not Jeezy...

Cats have played Jeezy on his relationships with women, his relationship with his oldest son. People have criticized his toughness since he's not known as a guy who was punishing nikkas in the streets, dudes ran with that BMF do-boy shyt for years, then called him disloyal, all kind of shyt. Say he's soft because he let Gucci diss him for years over that body...

I've never questioned Jeezy's character. It became cool to diss Jeezy over the years but that had as much to do with people's dikkriding and infatuation with Sir Talk A Lot's tough guy projection, rather than anything Jeezy did or didn't do himself...

I believe everything you're saying .It's a lot of recency bias with Gucci as well


Now idk if you ever knew anything about Rick Ross background....his ass got away with a lot just bc his music was good.

 

[staticshock]

I didn't know they was over there when this went down.

Yea bruh it was in the heart of the fukkery where everything bad in Decatur happens

 

[Who Not How]

Yea bruh it was in the heart of the fukkery where everything bad in Decatur happens

Man that's my hood, I lived by South DeKalb Mall during that time, was going to SWD. I had no idea this happened close to home

 

[Who Not How]

You ever met anybody that knew Jeezy back in the day? If so what they day about him?

I didn't know Jeezy but my OG knew some of his associates. Never heard anything bad about him, he was always solid in Decatur.

He was just never gonna win versus Gucci during that time. Gucci had the Eastside of Atlanta on his back, from Moreland Ave all the way to Conyers probably

 

[murksiderock]

I believe everything you're saying .It's a lot of recency bias with Gucci as well


Now idk if you ever knew anything about Rick Ross background....his ass got away with a lot just bc his music was good.

Nah I don't know anything intimately about Ross. But I've said this often, the people who shyt on him aren't from Miami or South Florida. Vast majority of cats from his city and area vouch for him and say he was out there to some degree...

My personal impression, is that his history is really similar to Pusha T and Mal. Dudes who made some money selling coke, people around their way know that about them, they weren't nobodies. But that he also wasn't way up the food chain, we know Ross wasn't some kingpin (and neither was Push or Mal), we know he adds theater to his art surrounding his past...

People from the city and the area say he was around though, not even mixed stories, it's extremely rare to hear someone say he wasn't in the streets, I've heard someone from the area say this like one time. I've heard a million muhfukkas not from his city say he wasn't outside a million times, we wouldn't know or have connections to people who would know...

I could definitely be wrong but I think he was successful pushing light work, he wasn't a nobody...

I don't think he really got passes for the CO shyt, people flamed him out for it even to this day. I don't think he got passes for his embellishment yhat other nikkas don't get as well, most these dudes are exaggerating what they were touching. And then the shyt with 50 made him bigger because he's a better rapper than 50, his music was better than 50's. I don't think anyone was giving Ross a pass but 50 is a really unlikable individual, he's the wrong messenger to come for most people especially if they music shyts on yours...

 

[RennisDeynolds]

Nah I don't know anything intimately about Ross. But I've said this often, the people who shyt on him aren't from Miami or South Florida. Vast majority of cats from his city and area vouch for him and say he was out there to some degree...

My personal impression, is that his history is really similar to Pusha T and Mal. Dudes who made some money selling coke, people around their way know that about them, they weren't nobodies. But that he also wasn't way up the food chain, we know Ross wasn't some kingpin (and neither was Push or Mal), we know he adds theater to his art surrounding his past...

People from the city and the area say he was around though, not even mixed stories, it's extremely rare to hear someone say he wasn't in the streets, I've heard someone from the area say this like one time. I've heard a million muhfukkas not from his city say he wasn't outside a million times, we wouldn't know or have connections to people who would know...

I could definitely be wrong but I think he was successful pushing light work, he wasn't a nobody...

I don't think he really got passes for the CO shyt, people flamed him out for it even to this day. I don't think he got passes for his embellishment yhat other nikkas don't get as well, most these dudes are exaggerating what they were touching. And then the shyt with 50 made him bigger because he's a better rapper than 50, his music was better than 50's. I don't think anyone was giving Ross a pass but 50 is a really unlikable individual, he's the wrong messenger to come for most people especially if they music shyts on yours...

Thanks for the followup. I like Ross but he jumped out the window with Jeezy on the BMF shyt. shyt even Meech and them still shyt on him for some reason



As far as pusha goes I don't belive it for a second. He was around the right people and people let him tell his tall tales /their stories


I'm a civilian square though so

 

[staticshock]

You ever met anybody that knew Jeezy back in the day? If so what they day about him?

A dude from my high school was signed to Jeezy around 2008-2010..he went by BAMA. It stood for Beat A Motherfukkers Ass but he was born & raised in Atlanta






He was never poised to be a superstar & he probably should have went by another name, but he would tell us Jeezy was hands off on folks signed to him. Nobody he signed or was associated with blew up besides Slick Pulla & Blood Raw, but even those two were local/known only in probably Tennessee, the Carolinas, Bama & Mississippi.

Idk if Jeezy wanted dudes do get it on their own or if he didn’t give a fukk about them, but it’s real noticeable how folks under/with Gucci became big, but we can’t say the same for Jeezy’s associates.

Man that's my hood, I lived by South DeKalb Mall during that time, was going to SWD. I had no idea this happened close to home

Speaking of SWD..I always thought it was just a school with regular hood kids & nothing extra. I heard y’all was probably just as worst as Towers, Columbia, Cedar Grove & McNair behavior wise

 

[Fanservice]

Idk only thing I can think she’s saying is that he didn’t go and intentionally clap dude up ..it was a heat of the moment self defense killing

How else should it be when someone puts money on your head

 

[murksiderock]

Thanks for the followup. I like Ross but he jumped out the window with Jeezy on the BMF shyt. shyt even Meech and them still shyt on him for some reason



As far as pusha goes I don't belive it for a second. He was around the right people and people let him tell his tall tales /their stories


I'm a civilian square though so

I lived in Virginia Beach, I also knew a brother who used to hang with Malice. They were d-boys, not on a major level, but most dudes outside ain't trapping on a major level. I don't think most cats realize that selling drugs isn't as glamorous as hip hop portrays it, your average drug dealer is basically a paycheck to paycheck brother. There are degrees higher than that but even most dudes doing it at a higher level aren't buying foreign cars, living in luxury type shyt...

Clipse had swagger to their trapping, had a few cars, people know they were out. Then they did get in tune with other guys who were real weight movers and there was some embellishing. The issue with them is that Mal is the more likeable brother of the two, more respected as he was more humble and being older he was outside first. Push is a lot less humble, so he gets shytted on because of it. They both had connections to dudes from wilder hoods and larger traffickers...

Pusha isn't liked enough to have been able to get away with all these coke stories if he never got his hands dirty . Dudes definitely know he put the extras on his shyt but they know he got his hands a little dirty...

The funny thing is the hood Pharell is from is wilder than where Clipse from, but he's rarely rapped about it. He also never dabbled into the streets though, he's always been authentically himself...

 

[Who Not How]

Speaking of SWD..I always thought it was just a school with regular hood kids & nothing extra. I heard y’all was probably just as worst as Towers, Columbia, Cedar Grove & McNair behavior wise

I was in the magnet program so my main classes were cool with the smart folk...I was probably the worst student in the program who didn't drop out smh lol. I'm surprised they let me stay in.

My home school was Columbia or McNair I forget but SWD was cool IMO...we had some hood nikkas fa sho from Candler rd, Glenwood, Gresham Park, etc. but I definitely viewed Columbia, McNair, etc. as worse schools to attend. We had Black students that came from money. I remember one girl was on some reality Hip Hop show, she knew Bow Wow.

 

[livindajetlife]

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

That is snitChing. But nobody never really said nothing about it.

Jeezy put out a hit on national radio airwaves. Jeezy snitched on himself