Deathbattle: Goku vs Superman - The rematch

[Hersh]

Akira bout write goku some new skills so he can get a rematch and win

 

[Real]

14 pages of butthurt goku stans

This whole thread is pure comedy

 

[Rayzah]

+1
lol I swear it must be 15+ years since i read that Wizard comic fight.. but iirc the underlying logic they had wasn't that Superman lost b/c he fell a far distance. It was that Goku's base form was more or less = to Superman, and so his SS form would then trump Superman.

That's why i never got into the debates b/c it was obvious where the road block was: what form is Superman = to... and that's just not something you can get both sides to agree on... b/c equating Superman to a form less than SS4 would basically be admitting Goku wins. And there's too much inconsistency in power levels and senseless feats by shytty comic writers over 75 years to measure properly, i.e. current version of Superman, rebooted in 2009, doesn't have any of the crazy feats and would get worked by Darkseid, & Wonder Woman would likely give him a tough time too b/c she's more skilled (he doesn't know that krypto kung fu stuff). And this is current Superman, not composite.

With that said, you can't have Supes be punched out to near depletion to where he needed the Sun to power back up (i.e. reached his limit) in the 1st fight vs a SS3/SS4 Goku (or whatever it was)... but then have him completely squash a SSGod Goku and say he's limitless.

Exactly, but I gues going by their explination superman is almost always holding back, and in this rematch after seeing he couldn't see him with the hands just said fukk it and went for the kill...

In all seriousness, pitting Goku against Thor, WW or Captain Marvel would be more interesting

Yea even tho I agree with the reasoning, I honestly never thought about that match up cause superman isn't just a warrior, he isn't fair.. How can anyone get past the fact that superman is consider invincible and goku isn't? and to me he has always been that way

I already know how this thread is gonna go.



DBZ fanboys will say Superman loses because Freeza can destroy a planet with his laser even though Superman can easily take a supernova blast and has stood up to Darksied




The hard truth is that 90% of the people that will post in this thread are DBZ fanboys and haven't read a comic in their life



Goku is obviously the better fighter considering his years of training. Superman hardly trains since he can easily take out most opponents. Goku's fighting speed, martial arts skills, and instant transmission will give Superman trouble.

Superman is incredibly strong and imo has the strength advantage. The truth is Wonder Woman is one of the few Earth heroes that can take on Superman (MMH, Flash, and Captain Atom being the other ones) but even then it's really close. Superman's heat vision and freeze breath can really damage and slow down Goku. Superman also hardly uses it, but it should be noted that Superman can phase and go intangible similarly to the Flash by vibrating his molecules.

This is a close fight, but in the end I think Superman takes it because he has more super powers to help him. If it were a straight physical fight with no powers, Goku MIGHT edge out based on his high martial arts skills

I think people think of superman from shyt like smallvile and them justice league movies or any movie he has been in and not the superman from the comics.. I agree goku is a better fighter, and overall more likeable character but that don't equate wins against someone who can do anything the writers decide to have him do to save the world..

 

[TNC]

I've been saying it since I started reading comics over 20 years ago, Superman isn't so much of a character as he is an idea and a plot device. This nature of his is exactly why DC has had constant issues with him titles retaining top sales for extended periods of time. The only times he sells books is when DC does company wide events or when he has universal status change (his dying, electric Superman, Nexus Superman, Rebirth of Superman, etc.).

Look, I like and enjoy Goku as a character more, but in a fight, Superman wins. He always wins.

 

[Kaypain]

The Superman that "struggles with Lex and Bruce" would still have the edge over the Goku that almost got KOed with a rock:

 

[TNC]

"As long as it doesn't contradict..."

 

[R=G]

How long does Goku last with the Silver Surfer?

 

[TNC]

How long does Goku last with the Silver Surfer?

Winning until Surfer takes him into orbit and creates a Supernova to eradicate him.

Superman, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange and Dr. Fate are 4 guys I don't see Goku beating.

Thor, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Hulk, Black Bolt, Namor, Green Lantern, Flash, Martian Manhunter, Blue Marvel and Orion are guys he'd probably have good battles with

 

[R=G]

I think there are plenty of ways Surfer can get rid of him but they love to boast about Goku's planet bursting abilities...lol.

 

[TNC]

I think there are plenty of ways Surfer can get rid of him but they love to boast about Goku's planet bursting abilities...lol.

Thing is, in actual DBZ proper, Goku has never actually bursted a planet before. Piccolo, Frieza and Cell have, but Goku... nah. Also, DBZ characters never burst planets with physical attacks, its always with energy attacks, which begs the question can they even destroy a planet with physical attacks?

That doesn't mean he can't per se, but the Power Scaling they want to use for Goku in those comparisons actually works against Goku when compared to Superman. I mean, realistically, if someone like Magneto wanted to the blood/iron trick to Goku or strip his gravity from him and launch Goku into space a la Eve of Destruction, what counter would Goku even half against him?

 

[R=G]

There's a lot of leg room for Magneto and the Dark Phoenix..characters like that since they have force of nature level power. And Superman and his durability is always his defense for anything he faces...along with the speed I suppose. Isn't Goku really fast?

 

[Turk]

How long does Goku last with the Silver Surfer?

A milisecond if even that. Silver Surfer would annihilate Goku (non-jobbing).

 

[squiddyB]

You guys know Superman can lobotomize Goku from orbit if he wanted to, right?

Goku got magic, superman's weakness.

 

[Medulla Oblongata]

How long does Goku last with the Silver Surfer?

Not long.

Spoiler

Unless Goku hires a couple of South Americans

 

[Jplaya2023]

goku crushes SS. Nikkas need to get real.