"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

Give up control of five draft picks for potentially 4 games and the sixth seed….

I'm gonna take the over on that. I'm gonna place a bet fukk it.

 

[ISO]

This isn't even the craziest thing they did this summer. They traded the 11th pick for cap space and protected future 1st




Yeah and they went and got a better version of Sexton who wasn't able to work with Garland because they are both ball dominant and short. He also took two of the better outside shooters in Ochai and Lauri. So now you got two ball dominant guys playing around a bunch of centers… it’s a Ainge special.

Listen man seems like you’re trying to convince yourself of something

Mitchell and Sexton shouldn’t be compared full stop.

Garland and Sexton also didn’t get a chance to play last season because Sexton got hurt. They went 7-4 together.

All this talk about “gimmick” big man frontcourts and small backcourts it’s all cliche. They was a playoff team and dressed 26 guys and their defense was elite. Teams like the Cavs are the future. They will continue to improve.

 

[Shogun]

I'm kinda proud we didnt get fleeced by Ainge for guaranteed treadmill status.
Mitchell is fine, but not much else.

 

[RickyGQ]

K

I think the only way it works is to use the pick and then trade the player on draft night. Then you circumvent the rules about not making a first-round selection in consecutive drafts.

youre right. So even though we have potential 3 picks in 23, we can’t trade our 23 pick?

 

[firemanBk]

Knicks fans continue to overrate their young players
What else is new?
Keep waiting for RJ to magically transform into a franchise player while picking in the bottom of the lottery

 

[El Jefe]

Ainge was never tradin wit yall after leon rose, tried to play hard ball and dictate terms wit that deadline BS..

It was all bout ego after that for ainge ( anyone who has seen his personality x character on the kourt, or off it, would have known that deal was dead right after the leak broke, that was wrong Play/arrogant puttin him on blxst to look like a klown )

 

[RubioTheCruel]

Knicks fans continue to overrate their young players
What else is new?
Keep waiting for RJ to magically transform into a franchise player while picking in the bottom of the lottery

I'm not even a huge Mitchell fan but the idea that IQ, Toppin and Grimes are all going to magically turn into All-Stars is laughable. Landry Fields and Iman Shumpert syndrome

 

[Glorious]

I be lying if I said I wasn't happy because I didn't want to give up anything for him. But I feel bad for fans who wanted him.

 

[Glorious]

Listen man seems like you’re trying to convince yourself of something

Mitchell and Sexton shouldn’t be compared full stop.

Garland and Sexton didn’t get a chance to play last season because Sexton got hurt. They went 7-4 together.

All this talk about “gimmick” big man frontcourts and small backcourts it’s all cliche. They was a playoff team and dressed 26 guys and their defense was elite. Teams like the Cavs are the future. They will continue to improve.

Brunson and Mitchell would have been no different when people were complaining about the Marbury years of guards killing us despite Starbury putting up over 20 and 8 assists per game. I never blame Dolan or Isiah for Marbury because he was who fans and the media were demanding for years.

 

[storyteller]

K

youre right. So even though we have potential 3 picks in 23, we can’t trade our 23 pick?

If I'm not mistaken, we can trade our '23 pick because we drafted Ousmane Dieng and made the official trade after the draft. But in terms of whether or not protected picks count, they don't until they are officially conveying. As long as there are protections on a pick, it doesn't help you move picks in the following year. The caveat is that you can negotiate a deal with the other team so that they remove protections on the selection.

 

[storyteller]

Ainge was never tradin wit yall after leon rose, tried to play hard ball and dictate terms wit that deadline BS..

It was all bout ego after that for ainge ( anyone who has seen his personality x character on the kourt, or off it, would have known that deal was dead right after the leak broke, that was wrong Play/arrogant puttin him on blxst to look like a klown )

I think that's why they set the arbitrary RJ Barrett deadline and floated him in offers to begin with. They knew Ainge wasn't serious and just wanted to try and find a greater fool to pony up more.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Mitchell was a HORRIBLE fit in NY. At a certain point you have to actually build a team instead of hoping for stars to bail you out.

What exactly are they building?

 

[Wargames]

Ainge was never tradin wit yall after leon rose, tried to play hard ball and dictate terms wit that deadline BS..

It was all bout ego after that for ainge ( anyone who has seen his personality x character on the kourt, or off it, would have known that deal was dead right after the leak broke, that was wrong Play/arrogant puttin him on blxst to look like a klown )

I think they knew the deal was done though. Woj reported it that way but other reporters went with the other narrative about it could still happen. Also I agree Ainge play style is reflected in his GM style and it’s aggressive.

 

[storyteller]

Okay, so the Knicks could have beaten the Cavs with RJ, IQ, one of Obi and Grimes, PLUS 3 unprotected picks.

 

[Street Knowledge]

Knicks fans continue to overrate their young players
What else is new?
Keep waiting for RJ to magically transform into a franchise player while picking in the bottom of the lottery

Because people have a hard time understanding that All “young cores” aren’t created equally