"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

[El Jefe]

Rj is never goin to be the offensive player spider is.. But RJ is a better 2 way player and always will be... I wonder how thibs feels...obviously they have confidence Grime can fill that rrole if RJ leaves...

1 less lefty in the back court as well..

Yall have a tough kall to make.. If theywant RJ.. No way they should be gettin Obi or IQ, gove em the picks, fournier and be done with it

 

[Glorious]

Rj is never goin to be the offensive player spider is.. But RJ is a better 2 way player and always will be... I wonder how thibs feels...obviously they have confidence Grime can fill that rrole if RJ leaves...

1 less lefty in the back court as well..

Yall have a tough kall to make.. If theywant RJ.. No way they should be gettin Obi or IQ, gove em the picks, fournier and be done with it

Calling it right now. DM is going to go the way of all these ex Jazz guys once they leave Utah.

 

[Peter Popoff]

Rj is never goin to be the offensive player spider is.. But RJ is a better 2 way player and always will be... I wonder how thibs feels...obviously they have confidence Grime can fill that rrole if RJ leaves...

1 less lefty in the back court as well..

Yall have a tough kall to make.. If theywant RJ.. No way they should be gettin Obi or IQ, gove em the picks, fournier and be done with it

Honestly, I just hope this is false hype and the Knicks laugh at any offer from Ainge....but if this trade absolutely has to be made for pride, ego, politics and ratings and at least 1 rookie putting up min has to be involved, he's my first choice then IQ because the team already has too many guards and RJs due for a salary extension. This also puts my ability to be a fan of the organization on a thin line because Randle is still here so it's not fixing anything.

 

[RickyGQ]

I'd give them RJ and IQ plus no more than 4 picks if my hand was forced. It's asscheeks but I could live with: Brunson, D Mitch, Grimes, Toppin, Mitch Robinson.

You absolutely don’t need to give all of that…

 

[Peter Popoff]

You absolutely don’t need to give all of that…

Agreed. Which is what pisses me the fukk off. It's like....why can't GMs and organizations say "fukk that nikka, I want no type if affiliation or planning with him ever" and keep it moving?

 

[OsO]

Utah doesn't want Randle toxic ass.

And I love RJ and Quick, but if they can flip them for Mitchell, I'm taking that deal.

 

[RickyGQ]

My guess is the Fournier trade is the baseline and their haggling about the amount of unprotecteds. Jazz want 4, the Knicks offering 2. I can see them settling at 3 for a package looking like:

Fournier, Obi, McBride, 24 unprotected, 26 unprotected, 28 unprotected, and probably the heavily protected Detroit and Washington picks.
Knicks keeping the Bucks and the Mavs picks is a win because they are likeliest to convey in those seasons albeit most likely in the 20s. At least we’ll know what they are when trying to trade them for the next star. If we can somehow get top 5 protections on the 28 pick that’s even more of a W.

Which would leave us with 23 Mavs, our 23 pick, 25 bucks, 25 swap, 27 swap, 29 swap and the 2030 pick to trade next summer for something else. Not the most ideal but is not nothing.

 

[KnickstapeCity]

I can’t stand that cac fakkit Ainge. No way should we give them 3-8 unprotected picks.




Anything more than 2 is too much. fukk the Utah Jazz as an organization and the entire state of Utah.

 

[Glorious]

You absolutely don’t need to give all of that…

Wait is that Dave Checketts son? Damn I'm

 

[jaguar paw]

Jazz/Cavs front office members are close. I only think the Cavs are being mentioned as a favor to the Jazz.

 

[KnickstapeCity]

Jazz/Cavs front office members are close. I only think the Cavs are being mentioned as a favor to the Jazz.

Ayoooooo… Close how?

 

[jaguar paw]

Ayoooooo… Close how?

Close enough to try to fukk with the Knicks perceived leverage.

Or try to join in on a 3 way.

 

[KnickstapeCity]

Close enough to try to fukk with the Knicks perceived leverage.

Or try to join in on a 3 way.

I’ma sit this one out, chief.

 

[ISO]

Rj is never goin to be the offensive player spider is.. But RJ is a better 2 way player and always will be... I wonder how thibs feels...obviously they have confidence Grime can fill that rrole if RJ leaves...

1 less lefty in the back court as well..

Yall have a tough kall to make.. If theywant RJ.. No way they should be gettin Obi or IQ, gove em the picks, fournier and be done with it

Mitchell’s offense alone outweighs all of Barrett’s impact on both ends.

Barrett is not a good defender just because he gets matched up with certain guys and looks the part doesn’t mean it translates to good defense.

 

[RickyGQ]

Mitchell’s offense alone outweighs all of Barrett’s impact on both ends.

Barrett is not a good defender just because he gets matched up with certain guys and looks the part doesn’t mean it translates to good defense.

He’s a good defender. Stop it.