"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

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comparing an elite perimeter player to a position where you need size and to bang is two different things. he's heavier than the average two guard, more explosive than the average 2 guard by FAR and has a wing span longer than the average two guard. so your comps mean very little. he was a plus defender and fell off.
this is like saying draymond green is too small to play center...............when he does it at an elite level for going on 8 years now.
He’s a volume shooter who is undersized that has questionable leadership intangibles :what:

He’s elite at scoring please tell me what else he’s “elite” at besides scoring?
 

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The crazy part is that I think heads are starting to turn toward his improved PG play but they're sleeping on his defensive play too. He's quietly played all of his metrics into starter-quality territory and yet nobody even considers him...our FO and coach included. The only benefit is that he probably stays out of trade scenarios because stigmas and reputation run league-wide.
I mean with IQ, we really don't need Mitchell. It's more of a one or the other but also it's a battle of egos for leadership if we acquire him plus we lose picks. With IQ, we at least know Brunson is leading.
 

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He’s a volume shooter who is undersized that has questionable leadership intangibles :what:

He’s elite at scoring please tell me what else he’s “elite” at besides scoring?
riddle me this. whats the knicks biggest weakness
acting like he immediately wouldnt be the best player to enter this franchise since melo is nasty business
 

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He’s still 22 yrs old and 6’6. He definitely played better last year

What the hell is Donovan Mitchell at 6’1 playing shooting guard gonna do?

We know what Mitchell is gonna do

He gonna take a whole bunch a shots and not lead the Knicks anywhere..
U don’t know basketball kid

RJ Barrett will never be as good as Donovan Mitchell
 

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U don’t know basketball kid

RJ Barrett will never be as good as Donovan Mitchell
It’s not about Mitchell being better he’s UNDERSIZED

Whats Donovan Mitchell gonna develop into?

:mjlol:

You don’t know shyt about basketball

You want the Knicks to mortgage everything for a volume shooting midget SG to pair with the 6’1 PG
 

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I mean with IQ, we really don't need Mitchell. It's more of a one or the other but also it's a battle of egos for leadership if we acquire him plus we lose picks. With IQ, we at least know Brunson is leading.

I felt that way until IQ found balance between playmaking and scoring rhythm in the final third of the season or so. Now, I'm more curious about how IQ can continue to develop because he's had the most expansive bag of all the young guys. His vision has taken a leap, his ball handling has improved (balance and keeping his dribble), and it felt like he figured out how to score efficiently while focusing on passing as the season wore on.

I think he's a really interesting prospect. But I also don't know that I'd bet on prospects over the sure-thing that is Donovan Mitchell's offense. It's tough to call for me. No single prospect is a true deal breaker for me, but the fact that Ainge wants 5 picks plus more than one prospect complicates the whole matter.
 

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I felt that way until IQ found balance between playmaking and scoring rhythm in the final third of the season or so. Now, I'm more curious about how IQ can continue to develop because he's had the most expansive bag of all the young guys. His vision has taken a leap, his ball handling has improved (balance and keeping his dribble), and it felt like he figured out how to score efficiently while focusing on passing as the season wore on.

I think he's a really interesting prospect. But I also don't know that I'd bet on prospects over the sure-thing that is Donovan Mitchell's offense. It's tough to call for me. No single prospect is a true deal breaker for me, but the fact that Ainge wants 5 picks plus more than one prospect complicates the whole matter.
I agree 100%. Entirely too much. Essentially, he's insulting the intelligence of Knicks management. It would be a nice gesture to just tell him to fukk off and drastically improve this season.
 
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