BK The Great
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Knicks better level up this year. They been shytty for way too long.
If the rumors of Randle for Westbrook are true, it’s because Obi is already off the table and most of us have surmised that IQ is as well since he’s basically been recruiting Mitchell.
15 years ago, nobody had traded 5 players and 2 picks for 1 player before. Then KG got moved. Back in the day, you needed a player on Mitchell's level to entertain the other team in trade talks, real blockbusters. 15-20 years ago, Mitchell's not getting moved for anything less than Jaylen Brown for example, or Ingram. Then it was the "give me a huge expiring so I can get these free agents with this cap space" era. Then teams had to draft well and hope their prospect stable was enough for a deal. Then the Jrue trade happened and now we're in the picks + pick swaps era. In this instance, aside from maybe Grimes, I don't even feel like the players are holding up the deal as much as it is which picks are involved and how they're protected.
the trade from earlier this summer went down and put a stop to anything major because now the league gotta adjust. On draft night, you mighta gotten Mitchell for young players, #11 and maybe 2 other picks. shyt changes that fast and when it does, everyone's caught off guard but that's gonna be the new currency. OKC was one step ahead of everybody in that regard and even if that big doesn't get traded from Utah, someone was gonna press OKC for those picks simply because they have so many of them. If I have 20 other firsts, asking me for 5 doesn't feel like I'm asking for much, so all this was inevitable. The Knicks just happen to be the first team getting tested in the pick inflation era (for lack of a better term)
Scott Layden isn't in the NBA anymore.Did you see the trade the wolves made? Scott fukking Layden made that trade.
You’re saying the Knicks should give up more assets in a trade than Scott fukking Layden.
FTFYScott fukking Layden isn't in the NBA anymore.
How y'all feel about this:
YOU SAID WE WERE CRAZY FOR EXPECTING 1 PICK BACK TO TRADE RANDLE, FOURNIER AND ROSE TO THE LAKERS. The pacers are demanding 2 picks for a lesser package.You're proving my point without realizing it
Indy is willing to take on Westbrook's contract if the Lakers attach those two first round picks along with it. Indy has no reason to accept that offer other considering that they can get about the same value if they moved those two players elsewhere. Even then, Indy is under the cap anyways so they'd be perfectly fine with keeping Westbrook on the roster for the season and sending him home in the process as there's no way that they would let him go near Haliburton.
They just want the picks.
It's not even the same situation as Myles Turner is a FA after the season and Hield only has two years left on their deals. They are not big money contracts in the slightest compared to Randle and Fournier. You're literally talking about $100+ million dollars between two players that the Lakers would be taking on. Not to mention the fact that Hield has been linked to the Lakers for years now.YOU SAID WE WERE CRAZY FOR EXPECTING 1 PICK BACK TO TRADE RANDLE, FOURNIER AND ROSE TO THE LAKERS. The pacers are demanding 2 picks for a lesser package.
It's not just Grimes, it's just giving up picks that would prevent us from drafting someone to replace him.I'd prefer not to do the trade at all at this rate, but I'm really not understanding this need to hold onto Grimes. He's a bench player at most if Mitchell comes to NY