"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

[Peter Popoff]

You're still not explaining how that trade benefits the Lakers in the slightest considering that they are still having to give up picks in the deal eventhough they're the ones taking on more money in the process. If anything, some of those picks should be rerouted to the Lakers instead.

If teams were telling them that they had to give up picks to take on Westbrook's contract, then why shouldn't they had the same in the case of Randle and Fournier? Let's be realistic here. The Knicks are getting the better player in the deal AND getting two bad deals off their hands.

Fournier, Randle and Rose are huge upgrades from Russ. nikka, you on crack if you think otherwise.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Fournier, Randle and Rose are huge upgrades from Russ. nikka, you on crack if you think otherwise.

I never said they weren't an upgrade. They're still bad contracts especially Randle's with how he played last season. Teams taking on longer contracts ask for picks in return. That's how it's mainly always been in the league. Why shouldn't the Lakers ask for the same? I'm not a Laker's fan in the slightest, but even I'd admit that they wouldn't be wrong at all for asking for picks in the deal.

Hell, the Lakers were getting the better player in Kyrie in the hypothetical trade deal and they still weren't trying to take on Joe Harris contract because of the amount of years left on the deal

 

[Peter Popoff]

I never said they weren't an upgrade. They're still bad contracts especially Randle's with how he played last season. Teams taking on longer contracts ask for picks in return. That's how it's mainly always been in the league. Why shouldn't the Lakers ask for the same? I'm not a Laker's fan in the slightest, but even I'd admit that they wouldn't be wrong at all for asking for picks in the deal.

Hell, the Lakers were getting the better player in Kyrie in the hypothetical trade deal and they still weren't trying to take on Joe Harris contract because of the amount of years left on the deal

nikka, the lakers are fukked either way. No one is gonna offer them a better pick. You acting like they have better options. They're capped out, 0 picks and have fukking Westbrick. Rose contract expires clearing up space, Randle got 2 more years and an option, Fournier got 1 and an option.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

nikka, the lakers are fukked either way. No one is gonna offer them a better pick. You acting like they have better options. They're capped out, 0 picks and have fukking Westbrick. Rose contract expires clearing up space, Randle got 2 more years and an option, Fournier got 1 and an option.

They’re actually going to be under the cap after the season, which is again why they wouldn’t be wrong for asking for picks in the deal. Once again, let’s not act as if reams don’t get picks all the time for taking on longer contracts. Dudes are being delusional if they think otherwise.

I hate how I’m having to defend the Lakers in this instance.

 

[Glorious]

I never said they weren't an upgrade. They're still bad contracts especially Randle's with how he played last season. Teams taking on longer contracts ask for picks in return. That's how it's mainly always been in the league. Why shouldn't the Lakers ask for the same? I'm not a Laker's fan in the slightest, but even I'd admit that they wouldn't be wrong at all for asking for picks in the deal.

Hell, the Lakers were getting the better player in Kyrie in the hypothetical trade deal and they still weren't trying to take on Joe Harris contract because of the amount of years left on the deal

They have been in win now mode. Hell win as much as possible until Lebron contract is done. They don't give a fuk about lengths of contracts. Just how to make the playoffs as much as possible. Lakers drafted Randle and didn't even want to give him up.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

They have been in win now mode. Hell win as much as possible until Lebron contract is done. They don't give a fuk about lengths of contracts. Just how to make the playoffs as much as possible. Lakers drafted Randle and didn't even want to give him up.

If that was the case, then they would have taken Joe Harris instead of insisting on Seth Curry if it meant getting Kyrie.

 

[RickyGQ]

I never said they weren't an upgrade. They're still bad contracts especially Randle's with how he played last season. Teams taking on longer contracts ask for picks in return. That's how it's mainly always been in the league. Why shouldn't the Lakers ask for the same? I'm not a Laker's fan in the slightest, but even I'd admit that they wouldn't be wrong at all for asking for picks in the deal.

Hell, the Lakers were getting the better player in Kyrie in the hypothetical trade deal and they still weren't trying to take on Joe Harris contract because of the amount of years left on the deal

So keep Russ, waste another Lebron season and hope to sign Kyrie next summer? That’s not a better plan. Cause there’s literally nobody else in free agency next season.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

So keep Russ, waste another Lebron season

I‘m not a Lakers fan so it wouldn’t bother me

 

[RickyGQ]

They’re actually going to be under the cap after the season, which is again why they wouldn’t be wrong for asking for picks in the deal. Once again, let’s not act as if reams don’t get picks all the time for taking on longer contracts. Dudes are being delusional if they think otherwise.

I hate how I’m having to defend the Lakers in this instance.

They’re gonna have room for maybe one max guy with no max guys available. Rose, Randle and Fournier>>> the hope of Kyrie or a combination D’Angelo Russell and fukking Harrison Barnes.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

They’re gonna have room for maybe one max guy with no max guys available. Rose, Randle and Fournier>>> the hope of Kyrie or a combination D’Angelo Russell and fukking Harrison Barnes.

Again I never said that those players weren’t upgrades..... what I specifically said was that the Lakers would and should ask for picks in the deal seeing as they would taking on longer contracts and be arguably losing for that very reason. Put your team bias aside and look at the bigger picture of that deal.

They’d literally be taking on over $100 million dollars even with those options, so of course they’d ask for shyt in return. Again, let’s not act like that hasn’t happened with previous deals like that. That’s literally the reason why Love is still in Cleveland till this day.

 

[ISO]

The haul shyt is concerning don’t know why front offices always fold.

 

[tremonthustler1]

The haul shyt is concerning don’t know why front offices always fold.

because getting a fanbase's hopes up over Mitchell only to have to go back to pretending IQ or Grimes will be as good is deflating.

 

[Daniel.]

I never said they weren't an upgrade. They're still bad contracts especially Randle's with how he played last season. Teams taking on longer contracts ask for picks in return. That's how it's mainly always been in the league. Why shouldn't the Lakers ask for the same? I'm not a Laker's fan in the slightest, but even I'd admit that they wouldn't be wrong at all for asking for picks in the deal.

Hell, the Lakers were getting the better player in Kyrie in the hypothetical trade deal and they still weren't trying to take on Joe Harris contract because of the amount of years left on the deal

You're still not explaining how that trade benefits the Lakers in the slightest considering that they are still having to give up picks in the deal eventhough they're the ones taking on more money in the process. If anything, some of those picks should be rerouted to the Lakers instead.

If teams were telling them that they had to give up picks to take on Westbrook's contract, then why shouldn't they had the same in the case of Randle and Fournier? Let's be realistic here. The Knicks are getting the better player in the deal AND getting two bad deals off their hands.

Just stand by what you're saying bruh.

If you think Randle, Rose and Fournier as 3rd/4th/bench options on a Lakers team trying to compete "doesn't benefit the Lakers in the slightest" just say so. It's not an upgrade. It's better that they keep Russ than get depth that won't extend much beyond their Bron window for picks. Just say so.

 

[Wargames]

because getting a fanbase's hopes up over Mitchell only to have to go back to pretending IQ or Grimes will be as good is deflating.

I don’t think the fanbase is enthralled with overpaying for Mitchell.


The media keeps trying to make this hype but the FO is right to say fukk it. There is a difference between paying a premium and the bullshyt Ainge is asking for.

 

[Wargames]

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