"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

[Knicksman20]

I am going to play devil’s advocate and say we have no idea why he acted the way he did last year. However, he does seem more engaged this year so maybe both sides figured it out.

I’m more worried about how the Knicks deal with the zone than I am about Randle.

I think you should be bro. Thibs is gonna live and die on the Julius Randle hill with iso ball & no accountability. And the snowball affect is it's gonna trickle down to the other players like Obi & stifle his growth. For this to work, Thibs & Randle to a certain degree with will have to fundamentally change their approach to the game. I don't think either of them will do that & you saw a glimpse of what's to come in the Summer League Blazers game

 

[Peter Popoff]

I think you should be bro. Thibs is gonna live and die on the Julius Randle hill with iso ball & no accountability. And the snowball affect is it's gonna trickle down to the other players like Obi & stifle his growth. For this to work, Thibs & Randle to a certain degree with will have to fundamentally change their approach to the game. I don't think either of them will do that & you saw a glimpse of what's to come in the Summer League Blazers game

I thought Dice coached summer leagues???

 

[Knicksman20]

I thought Dice coached summer leagues???

I would assume he's running Thibs sets

@storyteller

 

[Peter Popoff]

You stop zone defense by having facilitators on the team like the warriors. Everyone from 1-5 can pass. It's constant pass and shoot.

When teams do zone defense (which a majority do), you gotta move RJ, Randle and Mitch out and put better facilitators like IH, Grimes, Toppin in.

That's the reason why the bench unit looks much more fluid. Even if RJ is playing, he's an OK passer. This also why I'm much more harder on Randle than Fournier. Because he's a shytty passer. Like worse in the league and gets harassed. There's mediocre forwards that score 4ppgs and play better than him.

If I'm competent, I'm teaching that nikka how to pass before anything.

 

[storyteller]

I would assume he's running Thibs sets

@storyteller

Yeah, they're running a lot of PnR off swing action and using some of the staples from Thibs' offense (Horns aka a wing and a big set screens on either side of the top of the key for example).

The defense is also mostly drop coverage with a healthy dose of switching. So I like the continuity, but we also see the same problem areas for the offense and defense.

 

[RickyGQ]

 

[RickyGQ]

So what are we doing with he 2 roster spots we have left? Anybody thinks Hunt makes the team? This would open a 2 way spot for Montero. Wouldn’t be supposed if Jeffries gets the last spot if we don’t go Melo.

 

[Wargames]

I think you should be bro. Thibs is gonna live and die on the Julius Randle hill with iso ball & no accountability. And the snowball affect is it's gonna trickle down to the other players like Obi & stifle his growth. For this to work, Thibs & Randle to a certain degree with will have to fundamentally change their approach to the game. I don't think either of them will do that & you saw a glimpse of what's to come in the Summer League Blazers game

I don’t know. All this hoopla for Brunson. Plus all the rumors that Randle and Kemba didn’t really get along. I think the offense runs a lot more smoothly this year because they actually plan to take the ball out of Randle’s Hands.

 

[Peter Popoff]

So what are we doing with he 2 roster spots we have left? Anybody thinks Hunt makes the team? This would open a 2 way spot for Montero. Wouldn’t be supposed if Jeffries gets the last spot if we don’t go Melo.

I like Hunt and the little flashes of Montero but I think that spot is going to Keels so Keels and Hunt.

 

[Knicksman20]

I don’t know. All this hoopla for Brunson. Plus all the rumors that Randle and Kemba didn’t really get along. I think the offense runs a lot more smoothly this year because they actually plan to take the ball out of Randle’s Hands.

I'm hoping you're right but I have zero faith in Thibs or Randle

 

[Wargames]

So what are we doing with he 2 roster spots we have left? Anybody thinks Hunt makes the team? This would open a 2 way spot for Montero. Wouldn’t be supposed if Jeffries gets the last spot if we don’t go Melo.

There is a chance they just leave a spot open to grab a veteran cut by another team.

Also there were rumors they had reached out to Milsap, Aldridge, and Blake about coming on and doing a year as a bench big. With the Melo rumor and Taj leaving I definitely think they bring someone on to act as a mentor to the bigs and bring cheap depth.

I'm hoping you're right but I have zero faith in Thibs or Randle

That’s justifiable. Last year was a bad comedy and those two were some of the biggest clowns.

 

[storyteller]

So what are we doing with he 2 roster spots we have left? Anybody thinks Hunt makes the team? This would open a 2 way spot for Montero. Wouldn’t be supposed if Jeffries gets the last spot if we don’t go Melo.

I expect Hunt, Jeffries, and Montero to all get Training Camp invites. But I'd also expect the Knicks to be active on the waiver wire in case another Isaiah Roby type floats free. I like Hunt's chances to make the roster if his defense holds up in camp and preseason.

 

[RennisDeynolds]

Brunson will be a bust in NY

 

[storyteller]

 

[ISO]

they actually plan to take the ball out of Randle’s Hands.

Says who?