so resetting our young talent means what exactly. rj himself aint leading us to shyt. No singular player is unless you think a generational talent is someone we'd draft at 4. you're being unrealistic. rj isnt even on teh same timeline as randle so lumping them together is some buffoonery. if all things are optimal rj tops out as a #2 more likely a #3 on a team contending for deep runs by the time he hits his prime....which would be when julius randle is like 33
its all hyperbole with knicks fans, either dudes are trash or all nba first team potential. you need an assortment of talent. dumping rj make no sense and gassing up sochan is crazy considering the coach we have now wouldnt even know what to do with that boys skillset....not even getting to how raw he is. bro disappeared against good competition in college routinely. I'm good. thinking we'd reach for sochan and somehow get #4 with randle and rj is a funny proposition. nobody even wants randle.
We're not talking about any of the same shyt, down to you saying something about Randle for #4 - you got me confused with someone else.
I haven't even laid out any actual thoughts of a deal, beyond saying I'd like to see a move for a 2nd lotto pick and would be down with moving Barrett if it meant keeping #11. What's hyperbolic about saying RJ isn't leading us anywhere, so why not use our best value asset to reshape the roster?
What's hyperbolic about not wanting to pay someone you just called a #2 or #3, #1 money?
So why don't I just answer the first question you asked, before you started rambling and answering for me - resetting the youth for me means, for fukking once, actually doing a rebuild centered on developing and establishing our youth.
Reset the focus to Obi, IQ and Grimes and this years draft class. Get rid of our expensive vets for whatever assets we can get. Build around a young core, legitimately, without mercenary vets to take their minutes and waste their rookie scale contract. Give them at least a full year with the keys so we can really see what they have to offer. Not paying guys like Barrett long term #1 money when he hasn't had #1 responsibility for more than 3 months in 3 seasons. Not paying Mitch when he hasn't proven to be healthy consistently. Get a legitimate idea of what we have from our youth so we can better evaluate and better position ourselves to get or develop a real franchise player through the draft, trade or free agency.
See if NO would take RJ and Cam for #8, Trey Murphy and a future picks, let's say. That's a team loaded with assets that would likely bite at the opportunity to make Zion happy by bringing his Duke teammates on board, that we could get a solid return on and can flip for more. I'm not talking high lotto, I'm talking after the top 5, where the team getting Barrett should be giving us back more value, not a 1:1 swap.
Sochan is an example and presents a skillset I like, but there's no gassing dude up here. He's considered one of the best defensive prospects in the draft and can guard multiple positions with good size. That's all I see him as right now. He's someone I'd want to have when competing against a team like Boston. But my point is to move on from what we know won't work or will be expensive as fukk to invest in with a small sample size. I'm not talking straight 1:1 transaction, I'm talking addition by subtraction. I'm talking avoiding paying big money for talent that won't take us anywhere.
Moving Barrett and Randle for pennies on the dollar won't be pretty in the immediate, but would position us better if we drafted accordingly and actually played and developed our young talent from jump.
That's all I've wanted, but it'll never happen, so I'm typing all this shyt out for nothing too.
At this point I’m just content that the Knicks won’t pull the trigger in moving up and TyTy will be the pick. A 6’3 pure point with a 6’8 wingspan feels very Thibs like
