"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

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Since we got some time until the draft and the Youth is the topic. I figured let’s see where the kids were at as prospects before they got drafted. Considering all the back and forth it’s good to see where they were at pre-draft compared to now.
 

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This is Leon Rose third year at the job…. He isn’t a new POBO and he’s seen what works and what doesn’t work. This will be the offseason to judge him on the most.

I think they are gearing up to cut the overall amount of vets. They will get minutes for the youth while also getting Randle “help”. The plan hasn’t changed drastically they just need to deal with the fact they brought back to many vets. The also need to let Randle choose his help for him to be invested. He never really fukked with Kemba and Fournier and that shyt bled into every game her played.

I rather they trade Randle, but I can’t think of a more “not for sale” sign than the shyt they pulled at the Mavs game.
as they should
 

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Why? Make room for both. Mitch is still legitimately one of the best defensive bigs in the league. Sims was good but not near good enough to replace the void Mitch will leave.
think he's talking about donovan mitchell lol

the price on donovan mitchell in a deal wouldnt make it worth our while imo
dudes would ask for rj and 5 picks. im good bro
 

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Immanuel Quickley has a concise description of what goes on before the Knicks practice.

“Oh, it’s strictly business,” he says. “Strictly business.”

That’s especially true for the young fellas.

When the Knicks hold a practice, they actually have two. There’s the regular one you’d expect with the whole team coming in to work on the day’s topics, and there’s also the one that comes before it. Players have aptly dubbed the latter “Early Group.”

Head coach Tom Thibodeau will bring the young players in first thing to run through offensive sets. Every once in a while, a vet will crash the party, but for the most part, this is a time for the 20-somethings to learn the Thibodeau way and to absorb NBA habits. In two seasons with Thibodeau at the helm, it’s become a Knicks staple.

The 22-year-old Quickley is a regular — as are RJ Barrett, Obi Toppin, Quentin Grimes, Miles McBride, Jericho Sims and the rest of the greener talent.

If you ever wonder why the young guys have a sort of intrinsic, on-court connection — why Quickley finds Toppin for lobs as if they’re telepathic, why Toppin moves the ball so instantaneously when Barrett is alongside him — this may be why. They spend an inordinate amount of time together, even if it’s not always during games.
Randle should've been doing this as supposed leader:mjpls:
 

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I’m not giving up 5 picks but R.J. will never be as good as Mitchell is now. If we can get a more favorable deal (less picks, no Toppin or Quickley) I’d do it.

It looks like Utah will lose to a Doncic-less Mavs and the team is imploding chemistry wise. It’s going to be interesting this off-season and I know we are Donovan’s preferred destinations.

 

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knicks arent gettin brunson. He's playin his way out of our salary range.

you shoulda just traded for him before da deadline. he was there for da taking but as usual we're scared to make any real moves
they were never going to trade him at the deadline and it was drastically obvious they werent unless we grossly overplay cause he's essential to them competing this year.
they traded for dinwiddie as insurance for brunson incase he left in the off season cause they had no intentions of dealing him yet

knicks should focus on rebuilding because the way the east is set up allocating 20-25 million in jalen brunson isnt large enough shift in talent for it to matter.
dude is clearly nice but as long as we're paying julius his money, dudes like fournier money....is it really worth it to be capped out to be a 6-10 seed?
jaylen and tatum going nowhere, nets going nowhere, giannis is the same age as julius, harden is re-upping with embiid and maxey there, bulls will get healthy next year with lavine and derozan, trae will be trae, the cavs are mounting up young talent that fit together, raptors still got the kryptonite for us which is a bunch if a 6'9 long dudes with nick nurse, lamelo will only get better as a franchise piece.
we need to focus on giving more responsibility to players on rookie deals that are cost controlled and have complementary veterans. it'll be easier to know what to do going forward...cause being honest...we arent in the space of competing with the top of the east anytime soon. brunson isnt changing that. Our timeline is 3 years from now at best.
 

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I’m not giving up 5 picks but R.J. will never be as good as Mitchell is now. If we can get a more favorable deal (less picks, no Toppin or Quickley) I’d do it.

It looks like Utah will lose to a Doncic-less Mavs and the team is imploding chemistry wise. It’s going to be interesting this off-season and I know we are Donovan’s preferred destinations.




They gonna take Fournier and like it… :pacspit:
 
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