"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

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He hasn’t done anything to legitimately be ranked ahead of them on the list.

he was the number 1 option on a team that was .500 for the last 2.5 months of the season. Half the dudes on this list can’t say that. Especially the 3 mentioned. But when it’s RJ we focus on the negatives exclusively it seems. Like fukk the fact that Tyler Herro is a turnstile defensively. That’s not important here.
 

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he was the number 1 option on a team that was .500 for the last 2.5 months of the season. Half the dudes on this list can’t say that. Especially the 3 mentioned. But when it’s RJ we focus on the negatives exclusively it seems. Like fukk the fact that Tyler Herro is a turnstile defensively. That’s not important here.
Who cares what kind of barometer is that? Number one option on a .500 team over 2 months :mjlol:

Stop it son isn’t impactful like that :mjlol:

Last 20 games averaging 23.5 points, 6 boards, 3 assists on an awful 39/30/76 splits. Just volume box score stats from having a high usage. Dude specifically said he and his trainer made the goal to average 20 points per game.

Herro and Bane were both better this season…

Herro’s shooting and microwave ability is more valuable to a team than whatever the hell it is y’all think Barrett is doing out there.

Bane’s 3&D is more valuable than whatever the hell y’all think Barrett is doing out there.

To mention anyone’s defense is bullshyt Barrett is not a defensive stopper and is not a strong defender off-ball.
 

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Who cares what kind of barometer is that? Number one option on a .500 team over 2 months :mjlol:

Stop it son isn’t impactful like that :mjlol:

Last 20 games averaging 23.5 points, 6 boards, 3 assists on an awful 39/30/76 splits. Just volume box score stats from having a high usage. Dude specifically said he and his trainer made the goal to average 20 points per game.

Herro and Bane were both better this season…

Herro’s shooting and microwave ability is more valuable to a team than whatever the hell it is y’all think Barrett is doing out there.

Bane’s 3&D is more valuable than whatever the hell y’all think Barrett is doing out there.

To mention anyone’s defense is bullshyt Barrett is not a defensive stopper and is not a strong defender off-ball.
you doing too much. if rj crossed up dudes or dunked on someone once a week you wouldnt type any of this shyt.
you have aesthetic bias and its flagrant
 

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you doing too much. if rj crossed up dudes or dunked on someone once a week you wouldnt type any of this shyt.
you have aesthetic bias and its flagrant
How can I have an aesthetic bias when I’m bigging up Desmond fukking Bane?

Barrett is not worthy of being on a top 25 under 25 list because his play over his 3 seasons does not warrant it. It’s that simple. If you project him to be better years down the line than some of these guys that’s a different convo and even there it’s ehh.
 

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How can I have an aesthetic bias when I’m bigging up Desmond fukking Bane?

Barrett is not worthy of being on a top 25 under 25 list because his play over his 3 seasons does not warrant it. It’s that simple. If you project him to be better years down the line than some of these guys that’s a different convo and even there it’s ehh.
you ask desmond bane to do what rj s asked to on offense in this outdated ass system with the worst isolation player in the entire league sapping up touches. the efficiency you laud him for would fall off a cliff when he gets ran off the 3 point line and runs into julius' man and mitch's man in the paint....
meanwhile he's on a team with the first guard to lead the league in paint points in however long and a team that closes out games with 7 foot sniper in JJJ
even with ja out they optimize spacing. we were running lineups with 3 out of the 5 dudes being physically unable to play good defenseor just didnt give a fukk about it and you expecting the world from a playing getting 35 minutes a night while being an offensive hub on one end and tasked to guard the other teams best wing every night.
im sorry, we have legitimately never catered to rj's strengths roster wise and scheme wise and he's still shown up.
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this mother fukker kemba aint play half the season and is in top 7 in lineups in terms of minutes
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a brunt of these minutes that boy was the 4th fukking option
i fukking dare you to say desmond fukking bane would make a difference
yes rj has flaws but we've done that boy no fukking favors and i aint tryna hear about dudes that are placed in ideal positions to succeed compared to rj...cause i know without fact most of them would look dogshyt here with how thibs implements his template 2006 ass coaching
 

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you ask desmond bane to do what rj s asked to on offense in this outdated ass system with the worst isolation player in the entire league sapping up touches. the efficiency you laud him for would fall off a cliff when he gets ran off the 3 point line and runs into julius' man and mitch's man in the paint....
meanwhile he's on a team with the first guard to lead the league in paint points in however long and a team that closes out games with 7 foot sniper in JJJ
even with ja out they optimize spacing. we were running lineups with 3 out of the 5 dudes being physically unable to play good defenseor just didnt give a fukk about it and you expecting the world from a playing getting 35 minutes a night while being an offensive hub on one end and tasked to guard the other teams best wing every night.
im sorry, we have legitimately never catered to rj's strengths roster wise and scheme wise and he's still shown up.
this mother fukker kemba aint play half the season and is in top 7 in lineups in terms of minut fukking dare you to say desmond fukking bane would make a difference
yes rj has flaws but we've done that boy no fukking favors and i aint tryna hear about dudes that are placed in ideal positions to succeed compared to rj...cause i know without fact most of them would look dogshyt here with how thibs implements his template 2006 ass coaching
That’s the thing you wouldn’t ask Desmond Bane to do what R.J. does and that’s a good thing because R.J. himself is not good enough to do what R.J. does :mjlol:

The Knicks would have been a better team with a shooter and defender of Bane’s caliber rather than having Barrett.

Bane would have shot around or over 40% from 3 on the Knicks this year too being here would not change that.
 

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That’s the thing you wouldn’t ask Desmond Bane to do what R.J. does and that’s a good thing because R.J. himself is not good enough to do what R.J. does :mjlol:

The Knicks would have been a better team with a shooter and defender of Bane’s caliber rather than having R.J.

Bane would have shot around or over 40% from 3 on the Knicks this year too
bane would be on the bench playing 15 minutes a night fukking with thibs.
:mjlol: boy would get touches in the flow of the offense getting up 6 shots like grimes.
you think desmond bane is averaging 15 shot attempts per game with tom thibs :mjlol:
he wouldnt get up the shot attempts to average 18ppg in this offense next to julius randle and principles the opposite of modern basketball.
the desmond bane gas is hilarious
everytime bane puts the floor on the ground and goes anywhere inside the arc its a horror show
you're letting mismanagement of talent cloud what you think of him.
optimal spacing and pacing would make rj look completely different
unfortunately we never play small ball, we're almost last in pacing. but hey cause he doesnt have the ball on a string or doesnt dunk on nikkas every night he trash
 

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@ISO Now you can argue efficiency, but teams don’t game plan to stop Desmond bane. Desmond is just Grimes in an efficient offense.
Stopping R.J. Barrett does not require a very sophisticated gameplan his many flaws are well known :mjlol:

U are bigging up Barrett for being a shytty inefficient high usage on-ball player (this gives the illusion he does more) and penalizing Bane for being an excellent off-ball player

I’d rather have Ray Allen over Jerry Stackhouse
 

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bane would be on the bench playing 15 minutes a night fukking with thibs.
:mjlol: boy would get touches in the flow of the offense getting up 6 shots like grimes.
you think desmond bane is averaging 15 shot attempts per game with tom thibs :mjlol:
he wouldnt get up the shot attempts to average 18ppg in this offense next to julius randle and principles the opposite of modern basketball.
the desmond bane gas is hilarious
everytime bane puts the floor on the ground and goes anywhere inside the arc its a horror show
you're letting mismanagement of talent cloud what you think of him.
optimal spacing and pacing would make rj look completely different
unfortunately we never play small ball, we're almost last in pacing. but hey cause he doesnt have the ball on a string or doesnt dunk on nikkas every night he trash
Julius would be feeding that nikka like he did Reggie Bullock stop it

Bane can shoot the fukk out the ball hasn’t shot below 40% from 3 at any level him being here would not change that and he would actually help Julius

We assuming Thibs wouldn’t play Bane we assuming shyt now. :stopitslime: Bane in place of R.J. same minutes and the Knicks are better.

U can scapegoat all you want fact is R.J. based on his play which is highly influenced by his very own flaws is not a top 25 player under 25 he needs to earn his place :russell:
 

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Julius would be feeding that nikka like he did Reggie Bullock stop it

Bane can shoot the fukk out the ball hasn’t shot below 40% from 3 at any level him being here would not change that and he would actually help Julius

We assuming Thibs wouldn’t play Bane we assuming shyt now. :stopitslime: Bane in place of R.J. same minutes and the Knicks are better.

U can scapegoat all you want fact is R.J. based on his play which is highly influenced by his very own flaws is not a top 25 player under 25 he needs to earn his place :russell:
Julius feeding him wouldnt equate to shyt but a stale predictable offense that would get his 6'2 short ass trapped up at the 3 point line :mjlol:
the same way every team figures out our bum ass 2 man offense....
he would be fed like bullock and then when it matters that shyt will get blown up cause he cant do shyt off the dribble.
julius fed fournier where the fukk did that take our offense :mjlol:
thibs got deuce on the bench which is funny enough a similar mold as bane and that nikka didnt play when we had 6 guards and wing players out :mjlol:
had grimes on the bench until covid blew the team up :mjlol:
so yes its fair to assume thibs wouldnt give that boy the 28 minutes and shot attempts necessary to make an impact.
skillsets never get optimally used by this elbow headed moron so nah you not playing that game.
a better coach would have rj looking better and i stand by that
every other team with a top 3 pick prioritizes his development. rj never came into the league as a floor spacer yet thibs had this nikka in the corner for a year and a fukking half. i aint tryna hear this bullshyt
 

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Julius feeding him wouldnt equate to shyt but a stale predictable offense that would get his 6'2 short ass trapped up at the 3 point line :mjlol:
the same way every team figures out our bum ass 2 man offense....
he would be fed like bullock and then when it matters that shyt will get blown up cause he cant do shyt off the dribble.
julius fed fournier where the fukk did that take our offense :mjlol:
thibs got deuce on the bench which is funny enough a similar mold as bane and that nikka didnt play when we had 6 guards and wing players out :mjlol:
had grimes on the bench until covid blew the team up :mjlol:
so yes its fair to assume thibs wouldnt give that boy the 28 minutes and shot attempts necessary to make an impact.
skillsets never get optimally used by this elbow headed moron so nah you not playing that game.
a better coach would have rj looking better and i stand by that
every other team with a top 3 pick prioritizes his development. rj never came into the league as a floor spacer yet thibs had this nikka in the corner for a year and a fukking half. i aint tryna hear this bullshyt

Idek why you arguing with this nikka. Bro was quiet when RJ went on his run but now wanna act like son is trash :dead:

He'll continue to ignore the fact the Thibs main offensive scheme was iso Randle and the team was never fit to cater to the nikka since he been here :snoop:
 

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Who cares what kind of barometer is that? Number one option on a .500 team over 2 months :mjlol:

Stop it son isn’t impactful like that :mjlol:

Last 20 games averaging 23.5 points, 6 boards, 3 assists on an awful 39/30/76 splits. Just volume box score stats from having a high usage. Dude specifically said he and his trainer made the goal to average 20 points per game.

Herro and Bane were both better this season…

Herro’s shooting and microwave ability is more valuable to a team than whatever the hell it is y’all think Barrett is doing out there.

Bane’s 3&D is more valuable than whatever the hell y’all think Barrett is doing out there.

To mention anyone’s defense is bullshyt Barrett is not a defensive stopper and is not a strong defender off-ball.

Yet takes on the teams toughest defensive assignments each game while the Heat actively try to hide Herro. I’m not punishing RJ for getting toasted by KD. Sorry.

The team turned the ship around when RJ started “stat paddin”. Anyone else would have gotten praise for this. But nah, shooting splits. Not the focus on him changing the teams pace BY HIMSELF, or him starting to figure out how to close games with the first real chance he’s gotten in his 3 year career.

When RJ did have a good team around him last year and actually put up the numbers the other young guys get praised for, WHILE BEING MISMANAGED, still nobody cared. We’ve seen him do the shyt they do. They can’t do the shyt he did this season.
 
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Julius feeding him wouldnt equate to shyt but a stale predictable offense that would get his 6'2 short ass trapped up at the 3 point line :mjlol:
the same way every team figures out our bum ass 2 man offense....
he would be fed like bullock and then when it matters that shyt will get blown up cause he cant do shyt off the dribble.
julius fed fournier where the fukk did that take our offense :mjlol:
thibs got deuce on the bench which is funny enough a similar mold as bane and that nikka didnt play when we had 6 guards and wing players out :mjlol:
had grimes on the bench until covid blew the team up :mjlol:
so yes its fair to assume thibs wouldnt give that boy the 28 minutes and shot attempts necessary to make an impact.
skillsets never get optimally used by this elbow headed moron so nah you not playing that game.
a better coach would have rj looking better and i stand by that
every other team with a top 3 pick prioritizes his development. rj never came into the league as a floor spacer yet thibs had this nikka in the corner for a year and a fukking half. i aint tryna hear this bullshyt
Nikka no Randle would thrive with two high volume 40% three point shooters on the wing :dead:

He’d be better with Bane rather than a smaller version of himself
 

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Idek why you arguing with this nikka. Bro was quiet when RJ went on his run but now wanna act like son is trash :dead:

He'll continue to ignore the fact the Thibs main offensive scheme was iso Randle and the team was never fit to cater to the nikka since he been here :snoop:
fukk a run y’all are too easily impressed dude had a trash season
 
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