"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

[storyteller]

They don’t have to trade him into a team’s cap space. Teams having money on the books help, because expirings aren’t that valuable either. Next year’s FA is maybe even weaker than this years.

Also your examples are all top #5 to maybe #7 picks. After that you’re looking at maybe Sochan being considered worth more than Randle. I feel like Chet, Duren, and Mark Williams wouldn’t fill the same spot on a team either since all 3 are centers. That 20 picks Randle could be traded for.

Multiple teams have multiple picks in a weak draft and a weak FA that is the precursor to a even weaker FA next year. If the Knicks are willing to take picks and expiring or just roleplayers for Randle a trade will happen. There isn’t a lot of ways for teams to shake up their rosters outside of the trade and Randle is still talented enough teams will take that chance.

The only real impediment to a trade happening is if the Knicks rather keep Randle because they have to do stupid shyt like that to appease Dolan. Also because honestly Randle is talented. There is a good chance he thrives on another team. It’s just clear NY has him toxic as fukk.

This breakdown is legit. It's also why I think Randle (and potentially some others) can be moved but that a superstar trade will wind up being too expensive. Teams are going to need the trade market to make moves and desperate gm's take big risks. They'll do that either to outbid us for a star or to take chances on a guy like Randle (and I think Rose might be another player that sparks real interest).

I just want a dream scenario where we turn Randle into Brogdon and Jalen Smith...it won't happen, but that's the dream for me. That and a sign and trade where Mitch goes home and Valanciunas comes to hold down the center spot while Sims polishes up (I think Mitch was the rumored trade demand). Disclaimer: I know neither is happening.

 

[Wargames]

This breakdown is legit. It's also why I think Randle (and potentially some others) can be moved but that a superstar trade will wind up being too expensive. Teams are going to need the trade market to make moves and desperate gm's take big risks. They'll do that either to outbid us for a star or to take chances on a guy like Randle (and I think Rose might be another player that sparks real interest).

I just want a dream scenario where we turn Randle into Brogdon and Jalen Smith...it won't happen, but that's the dream for me. That and a sign and trade where Mitch goes home and Valanciunas comes to hold down the center spot while Sims polishes up (I think Mitch was the rumored trade demand). Disclaimer: I know neither is happening.

I would be Happy with an expiring and pick. Basically create cap room for 2023 and draft twice in the first round. It’s not ideal, but Randle’s fit isn’t ideal.

 

[RickyGQ]

Obi surprised when he finally got a chance to play. I thought he couldn’t create scoring opportunities for himself but his game is slowly getting better. His game is so much better to watch than seeing Randle brick step back jumpers all game.

He’s actually the passer we thought Randle is too.

 

[K-Deini]

Don't have an Instagram so idk how true this is

 

[Ironman]

He "unfollowed" his wife too this is dumb

 

[Wargames]

Don't have an Instagram so idk how true this is

He’s probably getting off of social media. Which he should. It’s not good for his mental.

 

[Big Blue]

Don't have an Instagram so idk how true this is

It's true

 

[Wargames]

Randle has deleted his social media two offseasons in a row if I remember correctly.

 

[Miles Davis]

He "unfollowed" his wife too this is dumb

Knicks fan base out here breaking up a happy home? That’s why y’all don’t deserve shyt

 

[RickyGQ]

He only follows his kids on IG. It’s a non story.

 

[RickyGQ]

We should shut RJ down…

 

[RubioTheCruel]

We should shut RJ down…

Why? He's 21. Let him get as many mins as possible. I'm not concerned about them winning games vs the Wizards or Raptors so why shouldn't he play?

 

[storyteller]

Why? He's 21. Let him get as many mins as possible. I'm not concerned about them winning games vs the Wizards or Raptors so why shouldn't he play?

This game has big implications on 9th, 10th, 11th place in the lottery odds because the Knicks and Wiz are tied and the Spurs are only a game back of both. I'm cool with letting RJ play though. Burks and Fournier are the ones that should be shut down. Letting McBride, Arcidiacono, and Hunt handle the back-up wing roles and starting IQ seems ideal for the circumstances.

 

[Wargames]

Why? He's 21. Let him get as many mins as possible. I'm not concerned about them winning games vs the Wizards or Raptors so why shouldn't he play?

 

[RickyGQ]

Losing these 2 games gives us a 20% chance at a top 4 pick vs a 7% chance.