"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread

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If Donovan can’t win with the jazz who have a better roster than us. What makes him or knicks fans think he can win with us? Especially if we gut our roster for him.

He’s a number 2 at best. I don’t mind trading for him, but we can’t gut our roster for him.

I don't think the Jazz roster is better than the Knicks. They just have a better coach and culture.

Gobert is a more seasoned, disciplined version of Mitch.

Bog is Fournier.

Clarkson is IQ.

Conley is Rose.

In terms of a #2 they don't have anybody as good as RJ.

And the Knicks have more depth cause I didn't even mention Burks or the young guys (Obi, Deuce, Grimes, Sims, Cam).
 

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If Donovan can’t win with the jazz who have a better roster than us. What makes him or knicks fans think he can win with us? Especially if we gut our roster for him.

He’s a number 2 at best. I don’t mind trading for him, but we can’t gut our roster for him.

I swear to god every single fukking time it comes to putting up for a star we do this shyt. Donovan is arguably the second best shooting guard in the league who is used in a terrible backcourt because of their size.

Now, i agree you don’t gut the roster, but Obi, IQ, Fournier and 4-5 picks/swaps is a very fair deal that I’m doing 10/10 times. Mitchell and RJ as a backcourt is much better for Mitchell’s production imo than him and Conley.
 

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I don't think the Jazz roster is better than the Knicks. They just have a better coach and culture.

Gobert is a more seasoned, disciplined version of Mitch.

Bog is Fournier.

Clarkson is IQ.

Conley is Rose.

In terms of a #2 they don't have anybody as good as RJ.

And the Knicks have more depth cause I didn't even mention Burks or the young guys (Obi, Deuce, Grimes, Sims, Cam).
I don’t agree with the comparisons necessarily. But if we do end up trading for Donovan, you can kiss IQ, fournier, Obi, RJ and picks goodbye.

Donovan with Randle is an 8th at best, especially with East being a beast and only getting better

If you can get Donovan for a reasonable cost, you make trade 100%.

I think we got enough picks/assets to make a few smart trades. We can keep RJ, hopefully IQ, get Donovan and move Randle for a better piece.

I just wanna stay the course for one more season before making trades, other than Randle’s bytch a$$. Get a different coach who will embrace the youth movement.
 

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I don’t agree with the comparisons necessarily. But if we do end up trading for Donovan, you can kiss IQ, fournier, Obi, RJ and picks goodbye.

Donovan with Randle is an 8th at best, especially with East being a beast and only getting better

If you can get Donovan for a reasonable cost, you make trade 100%.

I think we got enough picks/assets to make a few smart trades. We can keep RJ, hopefully IQ, get Donovan and move Randle for a better piece.

I just wanna stay the course for one more season before making trades, other than Randle’s bytch a$$. Get a different coach who will embrace the youth movement.
Donovan gotta be our PG. I don’t want him and IQ in our backcourt.
 

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Not gutting our roster for Donovan

We should have just drafted him :mjlol:
facts. in order to be a real title contender you need a loaded roster around mitchell. As good as he is he aint gonna be in the mvp talks in terms of dominance.
they maxed out that roster on that team the last few years and been nothing more than second round fodder. he's good but we need more
 

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There's no way the Jazz are giving Mitchell to NY without at LEAST getting RJ back. The Jazz got him under contract for the next 3-4 seasons, there's no reason for them to trade him at a discount

Any trade proposal to Utah that doesn't include Barrett is just not realistic imo
RJ nice......but I'd trade him for Mitchell easily.
 

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There's no way the Jazz are giving Mitchell to NY without at LEAST getting RJ back. The Jazz got him under contract for the next 3-4 seasons, there's no reason for them to trade him at a discount

Any trade proposal to Utah that doesn't include Barrett is just not realistic imo
:francis: Just when I’m actually starting to like that Canadian fakkit, too.




:mjlol: I’m all for getting rid of Randle but I don’t want to give up RJ.
 
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