DC's Titans Thread (First Episode Out)

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I remember the rumors stating the reason Bats didn't want dikk hanging out with Hawk and Dove was that they were too violent.

Funny how now we're here at the actual show and they're the ones looking at dikk like :picard::merchant::whoa::damn:.
Yeah I think that was :duck: cause

Robin Actor Says Batman Is a Killer in DC's Titans - IGN

“Batman is a killer and Robin wants to get away from that,” Thwaites said. “The idea is that he doesn't want to become a killer himself. And although these guys that he's fighting are bad and they deserve, you know, they deserve what he's dishing out, it seems, he believes that when you kill someone you crossed the line and you become almost as bad as them, so it’s pretty clear in the series that he was with Batman, Batman crossed the line and he was teaching me to do the same thing, and he’s trying to break away from that.”
 

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Acting is spot on....

but this couldn't be farther from the source material. dikk killing people is just pointless to what everything Batman stands for and his own characterization of who should actually be killed (He kills Joker's daughter before she could amass a following). So while yea, Grayson has killed before, it wasn't senseless. But also, its not his character at all. If the show was about Damien holding the position for a while, that would've made sense, or even Jason Todd.

Raven's power is categorized in the "Carrie" pool alongside Phoenix from X-Men...apparently, Hollywood and many directors can't seem to emulate a person with powers, so they just make them Carrie reborn. Also her story is less about being possessed and more about her knowing that Trigon wants to use her as a portal. And while they mention that she's the doorway, it falls short. This isn't the exorcist, the whole blacked out eyes/pale face look is corny. Such a cheap/horrible effect.

Starfire being black isn't the issue....its the fact that she's not white, black or yellow....she's orange...an alien, and definitely not Black Widow/Sleeper Agent. She doesn't transform into anything, she's just Superman-Lite. And creating fire? da fukk is the director of this show smoking? This is less Starfire and more Firestorm.


Beast Boy they actually nailed, even with the quick glimpse they gave us in ep 1..

Hawk and Dove are perfect- They got Aquaman from Smallville so I was hyped, he also has the build of a fukking DC hero, so that helps. The love triangle with Grayson is also very DC, so again, good writing there. The show is a light 5/10 for me, while not terrible, not that great either.
 

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Acting is spot on....

but this couldn't be farther from the source material. dikk killing people is just pointless to what everything Batman stands for and his own characterization of who should actually be killed (He kills Joker's daughter before she could amass a following). So while yea, Grayson has killed before, it wasn't senseless. But also, its not his character at all. If the show was about Damien holding the position for a while, that would've made sense, or even Jason Todd.

Raven's power is categorized in the "Carrie" pool alongside Phoenix from X-Men...apparently, Hollywood and many directors can't seem to emulate a person with powers, so they just make them Carrie reborn. Also her story is less about being possessed and more about her knowing that Trigon wants to use her as a portal. And while they mention that she's the doorway, it falls short. This isn't the exorcist, the whole blacked out eyes/pale face look is corny. Such a cheap/horrible effect.

Starfire being black isn't the issue....its the fact that she's not white, black or yellow....she's orange...an alien, and definitely not Black Widow/Sleeper Agent. She doesn't transform into anything, she's just Superman-Lite. And creating fire? da fukk is the director of this show smoking? This is less Starfire and more Firestorm.


Beast Boy they actually nailed, even with the quick glimpse they gave us in ep 1..

Hawk and Dove are perfect- They got Aquaman from Smallville so I was hyped, he also has the build of a fukking DC hero, so that helps. The love triangle with Grayson is also very DC, so again, good writing there. The show is a light 5/10 for me, while not terrible, not that great either.

But in the 1st episode when she unleashed herself, Starfire was INDEED orange completely. It could very well be that she changed her skin color to fit in. Those are nitpicks actually.
 

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DC fanboy podcast about titans and other DC shows they clearly don't care about spoiling so listen at your own peril

I could give a fukk. Until YJ S3 comes out, I don't care about anything else. In fact, Titans is just a holdover until then.
 

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But in the 1st episode when she unleashed herself, Starfire was INDEED orange completely. It could very well be that she changed her skin color to fit in. Those are nitpicks actually.

It would be a nitpick if that was her power in the comics and tv shows, but it isn't. As I mentioned, she isn't a human who turns orange ala the thing ring, shes an alien who's already orange...


That's like saying having a tv show wherein, Batman says a phrase and turns into the caped crusader is a nitpick....that's a huge disservice to the character and origin. So they kept Robin's and Raven's origin the same, but literally reinvented Starfire to be black and shoot fire out her hands? Bruh, that a whole new character. If that failed moment of writing is "nitpicking" to you, then you need to reevaluate your perception on what good writing is.
 

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i wasn't crazy crazy about the cartoon, i rarely saw it, so I don't have the same reservations that you all have. I withhold judgement until I see the final project, I like most of what I see so far

that thing that ever pissed me off about comic book adaptation is that all of a sudden Sunspot isn't black any more in both the TV show (gifted) and the movie (new Mutants if it ever comes out), I could give fukk all about anything else
 

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It would be a nitpick if that was her power in the comics and tv shows, but it isn't. As I mentioned, she isn't a human who turns orange ala the thing ring, shes an alien who's already orange...


That's like saying having a tv show wherein, Batman says a phrase and turns into the caped crusader is a nitpick....that's a huge disservice to the character and origin. So they kept Robin's and Raven's origin the same, but literally reinvented Starfire to be black and shoot fire out her hands? Bruh, that a whole new character. If that failed moment of writing is "nitpicking" to you, then you need to reevaluate your perception on what good writing is.
Logistically it is a pain in the ass to paint someone's body a different color for a weekly TV show. That is why Starfire and Beast Boy are not going to be orange and green respectively 24/7.
Plus you could enter the area that the old sci-fi show Farscape fell into where a main cast actress playing an alien had such a bad reaction to the blue body paint she wore every episode that she almost died.
 

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Logistically it is a pain in the ass to paint someone's body a different color for a weekly TV show. That is why Starfire and Beast Boy are not going to be orange and green respectively 24/7.
Plus you could enter the area that the old sci-fi show Farscape fell into where a main cast actress playing an alien had such a bad reaction to the blue body paint she wore every episode that she almost died.


Its 2018....we have better body makeup, also, if they're willing to waste fx budget on Raven's shytty powers, and "Starfire's" flame attacks, they can have the actress painted in Orange. We're no longer in the Bill Bixpy days of cheap makeup and even cheaper studio's. DC has always thrown a huge budget around for their shows (Smallville comes to mind). If its that much of a hassle simply leave them out of it and keep it a Nightwing cop drama, because re-inventing characters is a major fail.
 

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Watched the 1st episode and this was..............a shyt show :picard:

I'll keep watching solely because I love the Titans, but as a show so far this is :trash:
 
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