Dame Dash is one of the biggest frauds in Hip-Hop. (March 2022 UPDATE!)

[Paper Boi]

negged for chatty pattying

 

[Vandelay]

Dame's problem is that he always gets in his own way. His ideas and beliefs aren't a problem, he just doesn't know how to deliver them in a way where people are able to listen to them. His delivery rubs people the wrong way. His pride gets in the way too often.

People can only deal with Dame in doses. That's the real problem. It's why he has on-and-off relationships with a ton of people, including Kanye. It's why many others don't speak to him. Post-Roc, he was at his best when he was with Rachel Roy. After that, everything fell down the toilet.

But as some people said, he was on certain ideas and trends early. He was managing Floyd Mayweather early. The art/music studios with DD172 where he discovered tons of up-and-coming talent was good. His Netflix alternative isn't a bad concept. The problem is that he never likes to spend enough time building out all those ideas because he's way too busy spreading himself thin on a 1000 different projects. Also, he's very unwilling to partner with other people, even if it means being a lesser partner in bigger projects. Maybe the deal he had with Fox Soul changes that mindset - idk - but I highly doubt it.

Most sensible post in here. Dame is business savvy, but his arrogance and belligerence post Jay supercedes anything that people would want maintain any significant relationship with. Jay was talented enough that people had to work with him.

One of Dame’s ideas is what 50cent is doing in the new phase of his career on TV and has built an empire on it.

A lot of you just get emotional because of how he came across on his Breakfast club interview. Once you look past his antics - you’d see a lot of gems in what he says.

There are hundreds of rappers better than Jay Z’s out there. Jay’s biggest selling point has always been his image and that came from Dame and Biggz.

Can we talk about what Jay has done since Dame left?

Musically - he has been carried by Kanye, his wife and Rihana.

Roc Nation - that’s a subsidiary of Live Nation owned by Jews. The Roc Nation Sports arm of it took huge losses in tens of millions when it went into boxing. Andre Ward and Cotto are still getting fat off Roc Nation money and they probably lost more than $30m on both boxers alone.

The only thriving part of Roc Nation Sports is the fact that a few footballers (soccer players) based in England signed with them off Jay’s image.

Movie - the western movie (The Bullitts) that Jay just produced wasn’t his idea - that’s Jeymes Samuel’s (Singer Seal’s bro) baby. He was just lucky to meet Jeymes in London a few years ago (I think it was through Kanye as well) and kept the relationship.

I’m sure all the art stuffs Jay talks about came from Dame because Dame is into arts as well.

You spend money to make money - if they weren’t spending money, Jay wouldn’t have blown up. Spending money is what created the image that made Jay Z.

This post is pure hate for Jay.

Dame does drop gems, but he wraps it in so much hubris and condescension no one wants to hear it. That doesn't make you a misunderstood genius it makes you an a$$hole.

There's nothing wrong with ownership, but ownership without the sake of context is foolish. Which is what rubbed so many people the wrong way during the Breakfast Club interview. Not everyone can be a boss, someone gotta be a worker. Someone has to hustle up capital before they can be a boss. And what does Dame think of the people that work for him with that shytty ass mentality?

There might be 100s of rappers in your mind that are better, but literally the entire industry has him in their top 5 all-time.

Carried by Kanye, his wife and Rihanna? His last solo project was the most critically acclaimed rap album of that year, and it didn't include Ye, Rihanna, and only a chorus from Beyonce for a song that wasn't a single.

As far as movies, do you think Bruckheimer comes up with movie ideas? Feige?

Art...that came from Warren Buffet. Warren Buffet told told Jay to diversify his investments, and one of the sheer most lucrative investments is artwork.

And as far as spending money, they all had it...the story of Rocafella's creation was they all put up $100k to start the label. They all had $100k from hustling. For all the shyt people talk about Jay, no one has ever denied he came into the game off hustling. Not Dame, not Jaz-O, not Calvin Klein, not even Dehaven.

Bruh you ain't gotta trash someone else's name to big up someone else. Your posts in this thread are biased as fukk like you related to Dame.

 

[R=G]

He used to sing Aaliyah's praises..who is that woman??

 

[Carlton Banks]

So? He's probably still up to his eyeballs in debt.

Yall only paying attention to one side of the balance sheet.

This

 

[UberEatsDriver]

Dame been in that Malibu pad for years now I think he is just fine financially. Op can you afford a pad in Malibu like that via rent or mortgage for 5 years plus? I feel like if you talk down on someone finances you should be making more than that person or else it sounds resentful

Facts

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

False take. There are rappers who were better than Jay who are stocking shelves now. He was in the right place, at the right time, with the right team, one of which was Dame. If someone like, say...Ras Kass had a couple nikkas like Dame on his team to scream on execs and not take bullshyt, his career could have had a whole different trajectory. Even in your LeBron example, without Rich he could have signed a bad deal, or stayed in Cleveland too long and had a way worse career than he has.

Thread is haterish and gossipy. His girl's lack of melanin may be worth examination after all of his "culture" talk, but being all in his pockets and celebrating his alleged downfall is very unmanly.

Did this guy just say Ras Kass would’ve been as popular as Jay-Z with the right management?

Let’s not forget Ras Kass tried to blatantly “sellout” for commercial appeal with Dre and it flopped hard.

 

[LiveFromLondon]

You made Hov? Ok make another Hov

To be fair Dame put Kanye on whose overtaken Jay as far as iconic status and business dealings. Even to the point Jigga tried to garner the same love Ye gets around BP3, MCHG times.

 

[LiveFromLondon]

What business ideas

pretty sure Jay-Z superstar rapping ability got him to wear he was, Dame was spending money out the rocafella business account to fund his side businesses, one of the reasons he was cut off

he's a clown

Already been talked about by Clark Kent who tried to get on Jigga early but couldn't. He said he put Jay with Dame and the rest was history.

 

[Deltron]

Did this guy just say Ras Kass would’ve been as popular as Jay-Z with the right management?

Let’s not forget Ras Kass tried to blatantly “sellout” for commercial appeal with Dre and it flopped hard.

no. @TripleAgent didn't say that at all. He just said his career would've been different/better.

many artists would've benefited from a in their corner. 'Bis career might've turned out better if he had a dame over a clef.

 

[bucks3115]

Charlemagne ain't worth more than envy. Not even close.

yea for sure

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

no. @TripleAgent didn't say that at all. He just said his career would've been different/better.

many artists would've benefited from a in their corner. 'Bis career might've turned out better if he had a dame over a clef.

No he wouldn’t. Ras Kass was a great lyricist who could’ve had a better career if it wasn’t for label politics, but he was never a mainstream marketable artist and never would’ve went platinum. was an idiot and couldn’t do shyt for him. He was never in the same realm as Jay Z when it comes to popularity and salability. That wasn’t a good example.

 

[Deltron]

No he wouldn’t. Ras Kass was a great lyricist who could’ve had a better career if it wasn’t for label politics, but he was never a mainstream marketable artist and never would’ve went platinum. was an idiot and couldn’t do shyt for him. He was never in the same realm as Jay Z when it comes to popularity and salability. That wasn’t a good example.

and a would've helped battle those politics. Triple wasn't saying to have just a like figure who would help a ras/bis/etc with the bullshyt execs. Their careers would be vastly different if they had someone like that on teir team. Of course they wouldn't be big as hov, but thry wouldn't also have sat on the shelf like they did, or have a fukked up career like they did. A dame wouldn't let bis release some bullshyt like C! true hollywood stories

 

[tuckgod]

He almost got me bruh

What’s your net worth?

 

[Bonk]

Most sensible post in here. Dame is business savvy, but his arrogance and belligerence post Jay supercedes anything that people would want maintain any significant relationship with. Jay was talented enough that people had to work with him.

This post is pure hate for Jay.

Dame does drop gems, but he wraps it in so much hubris and condescension no one wants to hear it. That doesn't make you a misunderstood genius it makes you an a$$hole.

There's nothing wrong with ownership, but ownership without the sake of context is foolish. Which is what rubbed so many people the wrong way during the Breakfast Club interview. Not everyone can be a boss, someone gotta be a worker. Someone has to hustle up capital before they can be a boss. And what does Dame think of the people that work for him with that shytty ass mentality?

There might be 100s of rappers in your mind that are better, but literally the entire industry has him in their top 5 all-time.

Carried by Kanye, his wife and Rihanna? His last solo project was the most critically acclaimed rap album of that year, and it didn't include Ye, Rihanna, and only a chorus from Beyonce for a song that wasn't a single.

As far as movies, do you think Bruckheimer comes up with movie ideas? Feige?

Art...that came from Warren Buffet. Warren Buffet told told Jay to diversify his investments, and one of the sheer most lucrative investments is artwork.

And as far as spending money, they all had it...the story of Rocafella's creation was they all put up $100k to start the label. They all had $100k from hustling. For all the shyt people talk about Jay, no one has ever denied he came into the game off hustling. Not Dame, not Jaz-O, not Calvin Klein, not even Dehaven.

Bruh you ain't gotta trash someone else's name to big up someone else. Your posts in this thread are biased as fukk like you related to Dame.

You sound like one of those Jigga groupies who bombarded my timeline with Jay’s 4.44 album when it came out - with claims that Jay was kicking knowledge, lol. The truth is: you can’t teach what you don’t know and someone like Jay has to stand next to those who know to keep thriving.

Honestly, I don’t hate Hov and I actually appreciate him for the great things he has achieved. However, I’m not one of those who worship people’s image and whatever they’ve been able to accumulate financially - I study what people do, how they go about doing it and their ingenuity. And Hov just doesn’t have it. Very fortunate and cunning man, I must add.

Hov to me is like a parasite that needs a host to thrive. And when you study all his successful moves - he played the parasite role perfectly. However, every time he steps out of the parasitic role - he falls flat on his face e.g. his involvement in boxing and the huge losses he took. No shame in playing the parasite role especially in a country like the US and how it’s setup.

You have to say, “we’re past kneeling” and claim part ownership of Brooklyn Nets despite owning a negligible 0.00000001shares - for the bag. It’s a hustle but it doesn’t make you an innovator with ideas who can teach. Once people understand the difference between the 2 - they’ll start giving Dame his dues.

50cent, Ice Cube and Dame are the 3 most intelligent people in hip hop alive (I left Russell Simmons out for a reason). Dame just burned too many bridges and got himself blackballed. On pure smarts and business savviness - I can listen to these 3 talk all day. But I can’t listen to Hov for 5mins unless he’s rapping.

Salute to Hov tho.

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

and a would've helped battle those politics. Triple wasn't saying to have just a like figure who would help a ras/bis/etc with the bullshyt execs. Their careers would be vastly different if they had someone like that on teir team. Of course they wouldn't be big as hov, but thry wouldn't also have sat on the shelf like they did, or have a fukked up career like they did. A dame wouldn't let bis release some bullshyt like C! true hollywood stories

There’s no evidence that is anything but a loudmouth loser who happened to hookup with Biggs and Jay. He has no track record.