Dame Dash is one of the biggest frauds in Hip-Hop. (March 2022 UPDATE!)

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There are levels to blackballing..

Dame got a streaming deal with foxsoul..He might be on a come up..Dame is blackballed from the higher circles because of his attitude and arrogance..if he calmed himself down, he can still maneuver at a respectable level and potentially be right back in the mix.

Master P is blackballed because he ran off on the plugs...

And how do you know this?

IMHO all this blackballing talk sounds like bullshyt excuses for people who fail and their fans as to why they failed.
The people with money who invest in or fund other people rarely deal with them on a personal level or are a$$holes themselves and could give a shyt about their behavior as long as you can make them money.

Rich people with money care about making more money more than feelings unless you do something really serious personally or that can cost them money.

 

[Dzali OG]

Actually, talking to cats who were in the streets at that time in NY, Dame was the hustler. The guy who was that dude even before rap. His name was ringing bells before he plugged with Jay Z.

 

[Carlton Banks]

Master P is blackballed because he ran off on the plugs...

Can you further explain?

 

[360dagod]

And how do you know this?

IMHO all this blackballing talk sounds like bullshyt excuses for people who fail and their fans as to why they failed.
The people with money who invest in or fund other people rarely deal with them on a personal level or are a$$holes themselves and could give a shyt about their behavior as long as you can make them money.

Rich people with money care about making more money more than feelings unless you do something really serious personally or that can cost them money.

If you act like prime dame dash, no matter how good your product is, very few will fukk with you..

The intern you told to eat a dikk 10 years ago is the man you got to get approval from for funding etc..

People and circles don't forget when you treat them like shyt...

That's why Jay started distancing himself when he wanted to hit the next gear in his life

 

[360dagod]

Can you further explain?

P signed with universal and got a huge advance that he couldn't pay off..then he filed no limit for bankruptcy..

P was cooking the books at priority, but he was selling enough records to cover the bullshyt...once the decline begin, that's when the trouble came...

He resorted to getting an executive job at cinq music..some startup record label

 

[Ethnic Vagina Finder]

Dame isn’t in the spotlight anymore so I highly doubt anyone knows his net worth unless he’s reporting shyt.

 

[Bonk]

I'm waiting for you to admit you're a Jay hater. There's no objectivity in your argument. You argue like have a personal stake in whether one is successful or fails.

Literal or figurative, you're implying he hops on trends. I'm implying he starts them or has the foresight to see them arise. He realized branding was the next big wave in business and leveraged it to increase his revenue and build relationships.

• Bought an ownership stake in a team. Even if it was 1%, it allowed him to say he owned a team and it opened doors for him. It's the very reason Kanye keeps saying he's a billionaire when he's not. Inflating your value opens doors for you. This is done the square business world all of the time.
• Bought several liquor brands before anyone.
• Was one of the first rappers to have his own clothing brand.
• He popularized rappers having their own shoe.
• He owned his own high end nightclub before anyone else.
• He invested in Uber before it blew up.
• He's invested in recreational weed.
• He retrieved his own masters.
• He bought Tidal.

Not saying Jay is a business genius, I'm just saying he's not lucky. Dame is crucial to Jay's initial success, but you seem to think Dame would be alright without Jay...this is simply not the case and has been evidenced before and after Jay. Dame used to manage Mase and he couldn't blow up Mase and I think Cam? They both needed each other and it was a right place right time for both of them. To say otherwise is simply hating which you're failing to acknowledge you are doing.

Lol, I don't hate your idol. Jay's name only came up because people use his achievements to question Dame's credentials when it doesn't really take away from Dame's gifts as a man.

Granted Dame hasn't had Kanye's success due to being blackballed. But I can draw a parallel (in ingenuity context) between Dame and Jay by using Jordan and Kanye in the sneaker business. Jordan has achieved so much success with his Jordan brand off his GOAT status in the NBA without doing anything per say since he retired while Kanye built his Yeezy brand with his ingenuity. So, if I were to say, Jordan has been coasting while Kanye is the savvy one - it doesn't mean I hate Jordan since I'm just stating the obvious.

None of the simplistic/generic things you listed are the "next big wave" - they're the bare minimum anyone with money and financial adviser would do. And there's absolutely nothing innovative about them from a business perspective. You sound like the type that would call Meek Mill a genius in 5 yrs' time because he announced his next mixtape would be sold as NFTs, lol.

a. Jay's ownership stake with the Nets was a meagre 1/15th of 1% and I believe he was gifted the stake to act as a face from where they were planning to build Barclays Center - to help defuse the tensions with the low income residents who're protesting against it. A black token gift, at the expense of poor/vulnerable/disadvantaged people isn't some next big wave in business.

b. Wasn't Lil Jon the first to invest in Grey Goose? Jay doing the same with Ace of Spades after getting shunned by Cristal despite making them rich doesn't say much. He just copied Lil Jon and leveraged his starpower.

c. Wutang started clothing line (I'm sure they had footwear as well) in hip hop. And Rocawear started later with Jay, Dame and Biggz. So, it would be dishonest to give Jay all the credit.

d. Nightclub, Uber and Weed are generic things. You sound like the type that would call John Doe doing a 9-5 job who invested in stocks or crypto a business genius.

e. He was the president of Def Jam and he'd be a fool not to buy his own masters back.

f. I'd give him credit for the Tidal purchase and flipping tho.

Anyway, you're very impressionable and a good snake oil salesman would do a job on you (and the rest of Jay stans), lol. But I don't hate Hov (I have him in my top-5) - the man isn't what most of you claim he's, when it comes to business savviness. I can celebrate his wealth accumulation since he's a black man and still think there's no ingenuity in how he accumulated his wealth. Both aren't mutually exclusive and it definitely doesn't infer that I hate the man

 

[Carlton Banks]

Crazy

 

[bobbiewishbone]

How y'all feel about these Dame Dash-produced films that air on FOX Soul?:





God damn that film is low budget AF!!!

I was just about to say, he has some type of partnership with Fox Soul. I'm thinking that alone is worth more that $100K. Flipping channels the other day I saw he had an exercise show on there called Dash Diabetes Network.

https://foxsoul.tv/schedule/

 

[lib123]

You can pass down plenty of assets just by working a good career.

An investment banker, an ER surgeon, or a lawyer working at a big firm can set their kids up way better than some dude that owns a local pizza shop.

Yeah but the difference is you can pass down a career to your children if you own a business. Even in that pizza shop example, they could expand that into a chain. And entrepreneurs can pass down the knowledge of running a business that really can’t be learned in school. The reason why many Black children in high-income households fall into lower economic classes is because you can’t pass down a job. And realistically, most high earning Black people aren’t passing down much due to lifestyle inflation.

 

[lib123]

I wish folks would stop repeating this nonsense. Savings from retirement accounts and stock options can be passed down. These are real tangible assets you get from working a 9 to 5. Most companies contribute to retirement accounts too so it multiplies your savings.

A business can be a liability and not always guaranteed to be profitable so what good is handing that down. Its worth nothing. In fact, statistically most black businesses do not have any employees outside the of the owner. How do you pass down a business when you are basically an independent contractor and hustling to get by cause the business depends on you working to exist? You gonna pass down your lash business or incense stand at the flea market? This is the dumb thinking Dame got folks like you believing. Working a stable 9 to 5 to take care of your family is the better option long term for 99% of the population and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.

With longer lifespans and inflation, most people (including high earners) won’t be able and/or willing (living well below means) to pass down much working a 9-5 even if it provides 401k, matching, etc.

 

[IAMDetroit]

and you married to a white you just a fraud.

Hmmm
I hope you die on the toilet and nobody discover for 2 weeks.
bytch.

 

[Carlton Banks]

Hmmm
I hope you die on the toilet and nobody discover for 2 weeks.
bytch.

Defend your pawgs breh

 

[Carlton Banks]

Never around any black women but talking all that pro black shyt

 

[Lootha VanDraws]

Classic barbershop banter: weird Jewish comments and insinuations that white power elevated a successful black man.

Dame was one of three people who built the Roc. By the time the label folded, each was rich. We’ve seen what each member did with the bread. Plenty of people burn bridges and still make successful businesses man. Everything Dame has done since the Roc has been a failure. From music to motor oil, to selling clothing. That tells you everything to need to know.

man's a jack of all trades.