Creflo Cube admits to blowing off Zoom call with Vice Presidential candidate Kamala Harris

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This shyts been going on for centuries.... and now all of a sudden, you think politicians, whether blue or red is going to bring this to an end?...... :dead:
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I ain't saying this gonna bring an permanent end to the brutality and yes I know it's been going on for years but we're living in present day and things like this could be a start towards something down the line...not everybody is full of doom and uncertainty that nothing ever gets better like you...the house of reps put up the George Floyd bill that has been sitting on the Senate desk for months.
 

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If Snoop and Killer Mike are not making decisions for the Biden campaign then why would they be in a discussion about whether to include Cube's plan as a part of Biden's agenda ?
Rapper or not what are they there for ?
Because a united front of multiple people voicing the same shyt gives higher credence than some single person with an agenda.

If a dozen folk from the Black community get together in a discussion and agree on an agenda or a couple main points, or all voice in unison a similar vision of what they see from the Black community, then that holds weight. Or conversely, if one person voices something and the others disagree on that, but they all come together on 2-3 points, then they know what to focus on. But if just one guy has a private meeting, he's just speaking for himself and there's little evidence that his perspective is really the big-scale picture.
 

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She's not, but then again Ice Cube isn't obligated to stump for the Dems or give a vote to them, especially when the other, more overtly racist party showed him more respect than lumping together a bunch of entertainers in a zoom call

Cube found time for Roland Martin and 4 washed up celebs and time to go back and forth on Twitter. That does more for Black America than having the incoming VP on a call? If Kamala is on BS and not listening, Cube could check her on the call and we all would know it, right?
 
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Goddamn. How many fukking times does he have to explain this?

The Zoom call Kamala and the Dems setup had a bunch of rappers on it. It wasn't a serious policy discussion or a one on one meeting that Cube expected.

Its like people really dont understand, especially during political seasons. shyt is like WWE with politicians, creating narratives on the fly and pushing agenda's and even flat out lying, if it will get each "base" upset. All to influence your "vote" that doesn't matter cause...Electoral College. Claim your a "democracy" and its about the "will of the people" and have essentially a board group decide the fat of the presidency smh.
 

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This shyts been going on for centuries.... and now all of a sudden, you think politicians, whether blue or red is going to bring this to an end?...... :dead:

That’s surface level thinking at its finest......

Layout some of these blue city bills you’re referring too that’s going to eradicate police brutality
So are you saying Republicans are better for black folk?
 

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Your point is weak tho.... Black people flourishing in red cities wasn’t even the point.... no juelzing, you just can’t address the subject matter as usual
It is the point tho, there are only two options. Flourish or do well is relative. Your version of good has to be measured by something real not your goalpost moving ass imagination. You're trying to juelz around the existence of red cities as if there are other alternatives. Your point was bullshyt from the first place

America as a whole is a shythole. democratic cities/states as a whole have black people that are most educated, have more political agency and are paid better. Unless you have an actual place in America you can point to thats better then you're wasting time juelzing. We cant even get to the point of pushing them go do better because yall keep wanting to let outright racists into power

Most nikkas who get on the "democrat cities this democrat that "wave live in Republican shytholes where klansmen politicians got they foot on yall neck. In my democratic city our reps 3 got a police brutality measures on our general election ballots. Regular Black men can make the vote on local police oversight measures.

Did your Republican leaders do that? Did Creflo Cube?
 

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Cube found time for Roland Martin and 4 washed up celebs and time to go back and forth on Twitter. That does more for Black America than having the incoming VP on a call? If Kamala is on BS and not listening, Cube could check her on the call and we all would know it, right?
Cube also had time to go on Fox News Sunday :steviej:

 

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So are you saying Republicans are better for black folk?

None of these parties are better for blacks. We are only going to get what we negotiate for and the best way to get what you negotiate for is to play the sides against each other and make them compete for the vote.

Both sides are dedicated to preserving white elites at top because why would whites want to give up their power? The Democrats just know how to smooth talk and use blacks to their advantage before shucking us aside. Voting in one party or the other isn't going to significantly change anything for blacks as realized by blacks still being at the bottom even after 8 years of 'our guy Obama' being in office.

Politics is business, and just like car salesmen aren't our friends, neither our politicians. We need to work with who is going to give us the best deal.
 

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None of these parties are better for blacks. We are only going to get what we negotiate for and the best way to get what you negotiate for is to play the sides against each other and make them compete for the vote.

Both sides are dedicated to preserving white elites at top because why would whites want to give up their power? The Democrats just know how to smooth talk and use blacks to their advantage before shucking us aside. Voting in one party or the other isn't going to significantly change anything for blacks as realized by blacks still being at the bottom even after 8 years of 'our guy Obama' being in office.

Politics is business, and just like car salesmen aren't our friends, neither our politicians. We need to work with who is going to give us the best deal.
So in other words your only solution is to allow the Republicans to win and make our lives worse than it already is now...nah mane...only one side this heartless and that side gotta go:coffee:



 
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You mean like George Takei calling ice cube a snowflake?

last response cause I ain't got time for this today but I'll answer these questions.

George Takei is not the "democratic party". George Takei is just another celebrity (like Cube) expressing how he feels about Cube supporting Trump.




Why is this even a media issue if the Democrats feel like Cube is a negro getting out of line and off the Democrat plantation?.

I believe it's a media issue because white folks are honestly :skip: when they see a negro supporting the leader of the current white supremacist hate movement that is doing everything but actually saying the words "let's start lynching n i g g e r s again, y'all"

White folks know what's up. They know what Trump supporters say about us when we ain't in the room. Plus the ones that's in the media knows what Trump himself says about black ppl when we aren't in the room.

Trump is literally doing every single thing he can to roll back every bit of progress black ppl have made since the Civil Rights movement.

It's mindblowing that negroes would even support him. It's news worthy.

It's like in Nazi Germany, where you had some fool Jews supporting Hitler.

The world was like :skip: and it was a newsworthy media issue





Democrats feel like they are OWED the black vote. Why did Chelsea Handler tell 50 Cent 'You're black, remember? If you get back in line you'll get a spin.' Not even, Hey, I'll try to get these guys to hear your concerns. If you go back endorsing the Democrats, I'll give you some sex.

So Chelsea Handler is the "democratic party" now? :pachaha:

She is no more the Democratic party than George Takei is. Both of them are celebrities voicing their opinions.

And the fact that she said what she said to 50 says more about him than it does the Dems. He's the one that was sticking his dikk in that in the first place.

And again, she said the "you're black, remember" because it's obvious that Trump hates our guts. The whole reason Trump got elected was on anti-black sentiment.

And then a black person supports him?

I don't like the way she said it, but she was trying to drive the point home to that idiot 50.



The Democrats have been using black people for the past few decades, so it's one in the same. It's sad that our 'allies' show us less respect than the racist Republicans.

Yes, Democrats use us. We got the right to vote. We got the right to be elected to political positions. We got the right to vote ourselves into power in major cities. All of that happened under the Democratic party. But yes, we were "used".

Like one of my client says, make it make sense.

Now we can argue about lack of progress made, but that's not a party issue to me. When we can vote in a black mayor, black city council, black this and black that, then we need to start looking at the black ppl that we are electing if they are not effecting the type of change that we want.

But don't tell me that we are being "used" when we got the literal rights that we have under the banner of the Democratic party.

And I say that as an independent voter. There's a lot of things the Democratic party does that I don't like. But what you're talking right now is just pure ignorance.



It's sad that our 'allies' show us less respect than the racist Republicans.

You are an idiot, like I said. And I don't mean that as an insult. I really don't. But you are stupid.

Trump has told the Proud Boys to stand by, during the protest for George Floyd, he told his supporters to go out there and attack us, he has rolled back civil rights protections for black ppl that will set us back 50 years, he has been mum on a virus that has killed 230,000 ppl, 1 out of 5 of which are black...

And because he's willing to send his ppl to talk to a rapper, that means he "respects" us?

You are a special kind of stupid.



Trump and the Republicans are no saviors of black people, but this is why you pit the two sides against each other and make them COMPETE for your vote.

Republicans arent competing for our votes, you dumbass. Republicans are trying to keep us from voting period!

That's two different things. Trump has gone on wax to say that he doesn't want black ppl to vote, cause when we don't vote, it helps him. He said that out of his own mouth.

But you think he's interested in competing for our vote? Nah, he wants to take your vote from you. He actually SAID this out of his own mouth, fool.


Do you think Lebron would attend a meeting over his school if he was forced to get on a zoom call with the Harlem globetrotters, Muggsy Bogues and Allen Iverson? Just because Cube is a rapper doesn't mean that on a serious initiative, he wants to be on a call with a bunch of rappers.


I'm not even going to respond to the rest of this because I have shown without a shadow of a doubt that you are an idiot.

I'm not going to respond to you anymore on this topic because you aren't worth the time. You are either young, or just dumb and either way, I don't have time to go back and forth with you.

You are wrong on so much. I don't even know if there's hope for ppl like you. You are easily deceived and tricked.

I'm getting to the point where I just want to build with brothas that are intelligent and that are on the same page. The rest of y'all are about to be on your own, because you seem to cherish and love ignorance.

What can I do for someone that refuses to educate himself and learn just basic truths? You fall for the Trump rhetoric so easily. Your father and mother failed you, breh.
 
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It is the point tho, there are only two options. Flourish or do well is relative. Your version of good has to be measured by something real not your goalpost moving ass imagination. You're trying to juelz around the existence of red cities as if there are other alternatives. Your point was bullshyt from the first place

This has got to be the worst type of filibustering.... There is no juelzing..... I don’t deal in red or blue actually... that’s y’all fantasy shyt. I deal in black, white and green...so a city is either gonna be conducive to raising a family or not... and politics is only a small piece of the puzzle.... I don’t deal in bullshyt semantics like most of y’all who probably never grew up around nikkas to begin with...

America is a shythole but plenty of motherfukkas keep finding a way to get across that water/fence to get over here
 

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You mean how VP candidate Kamala Harris just invited Ice Cube to a Zoom meeting full of a bunch of entertainers, which is the premise of this thread?

You mean how the Democrats can outline specifics for every other group, even groups that can't vote, but blacks get vague answers about how they can dip their hand in the everybody bucket?

You mean Biden eulogizing former KKK member Byrd and even calling him a mentor? Hillary calling Margaret Sanger a hero?

Here's your buddy Joe on reparations


How the fukk did you juelz all the way from my comment to that? :dwillhuh:

George Takei doesn't represent the Democratic Party. Full stop. He's an actor, not a politician, so claiming that something he tweeted is the position of the Democratic Party is just dumb. All your weird-ass juelzing doesn't change that.

And I don't even like Joe BIden so where the hell you going there for? :gucci:

But Ice Cube can cut business deals with fukking Steve Bannon, the ringleader of Trump's White Supremacy agenda, but Biden is toxic cause he eulogized a fellow Senator. :mjlol:





You mean how the Democrats can outline specifics for every other group, even groups that can't vote, but blacks get vague answers about how they can dip their hand in the everybody bucket?
We've already been talking about Black farmers getting over $1 billion in SPECIFICS in the Obama administration but you ignore whatever doesn't fit your agenda. :mjlol:

Cash deals for specifics for one group that exclude all other groups can happen when the output is MINOR and can be done to SPECIFIC victims. You can toss $12 million to Holocaust survivors or $400 million to Native American tribes who were blackballed on a treaty or $500 million to Japanese internment camp survivors or $1.25 billion to Black farmers.

Notice that no party has EVER given trillions of dollars to all Jews, or all Native Americans, or all Japanese, or all Black folk. It's always a small dollar amount designated to specific people. Exact same shyt has been on the table for everyone.

Now, if we want to get more than that, if we want to get what's owed the entire Black community, then we have to get public sentiment there. But making up fairy tales about how political parties operate won't help. NO ONE has gotten anything close to what we're trying to ask for. It's new ground completely.
 
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