Creationists butthurt as a result of Dr Pepper ad

daze23

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uhm no disrespect here friend but all i see are very creative drawings with a time line above it where are the fossils peiced together without missing limbs and bits and such?

lets not even get into the big lines inbetween those drawings that are also being left out

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Dude is demanding full conclusive studies of evidence for evolution, then is dismissive when an example is provided. Meanwhile when confronted with the obvious hypocrisy/flawed logic of these demands while blindly following religious beliefs, he skirts the issue, tries to shift the argument to irrelevant minutiae and plays the cowardly game of trying to hide his own views (which are obvious) through deliberately incredulous questioning ("who said that's what I believe?").

The irony of you bafoons eventually dying out through natural selection is too delicious.
 

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Why do u require so much evidence for this (Which is good, you should be skeptic of everything but there's so much evidence for the case of evolution and none whatsoever to support any alternative you'd have to be slightly retarded to deny it bro) yet demand none whatsoever for whatever faith you subscribe to bro? Its like ur a smart/dumb nikka b




a correct amount of evidence is required so we arent just connecting bones together that really have no connection at all completely making up new animals potentially that dont and have never existed sort of like filling in the blanks on jeopordy but no one there to tell you if its right or wrong so you just go with what you think it was suppose to be because of course after all there is no cartiliege to connect it after you find it anyway




I don't know how ur mind works, but alot of these fossils are million and billions of years old b. To have just ONE jaw bone of ANYTHING is a miracle, shyt...on the same token...if u go to the beach and leave some item or yours out there right now ur lucky if its still there a few hours later.


thats actually a very interesting point you make without knowing it aside from the very few bones that are found part since fossils are made from whatever is being fossilized sitting in a spot for a very very long time millions of years possibly you know how hard it is for something to actually sit in one spot that long untouched and unstimulated? it almost makes it impossible for that to ever happen and makes it even more unlikely that these old bones are being matched correctly



a couple hundred million years is a very long time for something to remain in picture perfect condition just so you could find it. Seriously.....full BONE STRUCTURE? for some shyt thats been laying around on earth for millions of fukking years...countless of lifetimes, hundreds of wars.....etc



I'm always amazed when people are upset because a species that died millions of years before ur pop busted a nutt in ur moms isn't in perfect condition for your personal pleasure.





Every fossil we have ever found has been by chance, yeah there are certain spots where scientist have a hunch where they might be but ultimately nothing is guaranteed and we're lucky to have any fossils at all.. We as humans are arrogant as fuk to thing that everything should be layed out like that for us....who the fuk are we?..... :heh:



as long as we know that all of this is very unlikely to be true what else needs to be said? instead of pushing it as an ultimate truth recognize it for what it is(theory)



Eh, here are some examples of the intermediates between reptiles and mammals...aka mammalian like reptiles. You're not going to read it anyway tho so :ehh:
Synapsid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



i read the page here is a quote and pictures



Dimetrodon.jpg




Archaeothyris_BW.jpg





Sphenacodon222.jpg




i wonder what animal that first one evolved into over time specifically...the other ones just look like modern day lizards just a little rougher but i went ahead and googled their fossils since those ones are drawn art and i cant seem to find anything :wow: just 1 small skull covered with sediment that makes it hard to even make out at all maybe not even the same animal




Synapsids' evolution into mammals is believed to have been triggered by moving to a nocturnal niche



so do they know for sure or is this just belief? maybe its because its a wiki article but you seem to rely on it so maybe not












Fossils aside, genetics is the biggest piece of evidence that proves evolution is true though imo.


this all really boils down to human arrogance and our refusal to accept the fact that we're just apes and that we are just one of many branches on the huge evolutionary tree.




genetically we are humans not apes otherwise we would be apes simple as that similar does not mean identical ever
 

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Dude is demanding full conclusive studies of evidence for evolution, then is dismissive when an example is provided. Meanwhile when confronted with the obvious hypocrisy/flawed logic of these demands while blindly following religious beliefs, he skirts the issue, tries to shift the argument to irrelevant minutiae and plays the cowardly game of trying to hide his own views (which are obvious) through deliberately incredulous questioning ("who said that's what I believe?").

The irony of you bafoons eventually dying out through natural selection is too delicious.




as far as im concerned all of you typing out demonic responses with no evidence when thats all you have to do to prove your point are trolling or just dont know what your talking about daze is the only one coming proper the rest of you are :yawn: just a bunch of clever wordings to show your own ignorance to the topic

as far as your concerned though im muslim christian taoist buddhist pagan and all that even scientologist :troll: your mad that you cant pin beliefs to me to discredit me but its ok we cant all just discuss some of us cower when pressure is felt even if its not applied directly :ehh:
 

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Some day Creationists are gonna start burning ads in the streets :russ:

I see this debate going on in the thread, but it's really useless. It's lopsided: the evolutionist is required to provide ALL the proof, RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW, about how it works. Naturally that's hard, because it's, well, science, not barstool conversation. Then the believer can answer says "Oh, you see! You can't explain evolution, so it must be false! Proof being, there are still apes!" Then the evoliutionist asks the other guy to "prove" God created the world in 7 days and that evolution is false, and the believer answers :"It's written in the Bible. That's all the proof I need". :lawd:
 

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interesting read you linked up breh but some quick stuff to point out though


Mesonychids are just one of several whole lines of early mammals which are now completely extinct, and have never been seen alive by modern man. So we don't have their DNA on file.



There are many transitional links in the apparent line between extinct Mesonychids and modern whales. In fact, there are still more than that, and even more than are listed in this chart (at right) too. But some of them are quite fragmentary and illustrations don't yet exist for many of them.


missing links breh :manny: debunked


Some day Creationists are gonna start burning ads in the streets :russ:

I see this debate going on in the thread, but it's really useless. It's lopsided: the evolutionist is required to provide ALL the proof, RIGHT HERE AND RIGHT NOW, about how it works. Naturally that's hard, because it's, well, science, not barstool conversation. Then the believer can answer says "Oh, you see! You can't explain evolution, so it must be false! Proof being, there are still apes!" Then the evoliutionist asks the other guy to "prove" God created the world in 7 days and that evolution is false, and the believer answers :"It's written in the Bible. That's all the proof I need". :lawd:


:myman: well i guess they as in evolutionists should stop pouting their lips out and putting it out there as if its some very basic concrete stuff thats easily explainable then get upset when they dont even know how to explain what they believe in to be fact

the irony of them saying they "you cant explain this and that!" when they are in the same ocean different boat hypothetically







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:myman: well i guess they as in evolutionists should stop pouting their lips out and putting it out there as if its some very basic concrete stuff thats easily explainable then get upset when they dont even know how to explain what they believe in to be fact

the irony of them saying they "you cant explain this and that!" when they are in the same ocean different boat hypothetically







:snooze:

I think you missed my point. I'm saying that a scientist can explain evolution, but not necessarily just any random dude on the street or forum. Doesn't mean that it isn't true: I (emphasis on "I") can't explain HOW some things work, but it doens't mean that they don't nor that they work for some mystical reason. But on the other hand it doens't take a Pope to say "God created the world in 7 days, and that's that".
 

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as far as im concerned all of you typing out demonic responses with no evidence when thats all you have to do to prove your point are trolling or just dont know what your talking about daze is the only one coming proper the rest of you are :yawn: just a bunch of clever wordings to show your own ignorance to the topic

as far as your concerned though im muslim christian taoist buddhist pagan and all that even scientologist :troll: your mad that you cant pin beliefs to me to discredit me but its ok we cant all just discuss some of us cower when pressure is felt even if its not applied directly :ehh:

you want to ask people to explain the entire theory of evolution but your entire counter argument is one sentence long, and its something that a 5 year old could say and they would be an authority on it

and this is the staggering intellect you want people to debate :laff:
 

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You create a lot of troll threads. Get your mind together. Eventually stem cell research will be legalized but you'll still complain because you are a thought cop, and a demon. Its so demonic, friend.

you are a grown man who spent so much time spanning a message board that he got banned. if thats not demonic i dont know what is.

its disgustnig, friend
 

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you serious with this? look at me :aicmon: you serious?

anybody that looks at this like:ohhh: and not like :shaq2:

i mean look at it! its a whale turning into a tiger :what:

Actually it's a prehistoric mammal (not a tiger) evolving into whales. Whales evolved out of land animals that returned to sea. They have the vestigal parts to prove it.
 
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