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As I've said to you before, I might vote Democrat but I'm not one of these dumbass bleeding heart liberals breh you are not gonna convince me that "Dur dur cars are bad" and that we should reconfigure this city to the whims of fauxgressive CACs and Blacks who wanna cosplay as Socialists.

What you're doing is fear mongering kinda the same way Karen-esque White women used to fearmonger against hip hop or certain types of rock music in the 90s and it's kind of gross and it's why a lot of shyt does'nt actually get done in this country let alone this city, because you've completely missed the plot.

You're posting scenes from accidents as if all around NYC it's Thunderdome and we're all in fear of our lives every time we step on to a city street.

It shows a lack of integrity TBH

if you can't even acknowledge that maybe sidewalks should have bollards to protect pedestrians then you're too far gone to see any reason. :francis:
 
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if you can't even acknowledge that maybe sidewalks should have bollards to protect pedestrians then you're too far gone to see any reason. :francis:
Brodie I even broke down to you how the DOT has been collaborating with community groups that DO NOT REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY in order to make changes to these communities without actual input from long time residents (BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE) or Community Boards, whose purpose is to represent the interests of the community.

As I've said before, you and I might agree on some things, but with respect to this "transportation and public safety" shyt you've gone WAYYYYY off the deep end and are too far gone to see the effects of what you're proposing, and you're aligning yourself with oppression olympic whites whose sole purpose is to take over neighborhoods and become those communities rather than being part of them.

I truly hope that you're not a Black man because you're so far gone you can't even conceptualize that what you're doing is destroying and gentrifying New York City.

There are definitely places that need traffic improvements....you and I BOTH know that's not what you, or any of these CAC anti-car groups in NYC are about and that's why this whole conversation is disingenuous to begin with.

You're doing the equivalent of when CACs say Black people need to be lifted out of poverty (ah sure we can all agree on that) all while calling for stronger drug laws, longer sentences, and harsher policing, which will simply lead to more Black men especially being incarcerated and eliminated from being able to be lifted out of poverty.

Yeah...you want bollards....what you're also not saying is you want to end the private ownership of cars, remove the ability to park on the street, turn streets into "open plazas" and changing neighborhoods so that people can't even drive through them.

And THAT'S the tiny fine print that the NYC biker bros (CACS) and bleeding heart liberals don't want you to see
 

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Brodie I even broke down to you how the DOT has been collaborating with community groups that DO NOT REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY in order to make changes to these communities without actual input from long time residents (BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE) or Community Boards, whose purpose is to represent the interests of the community.

As I've said before, you and I might agree on some things, but with respect to this "transportation and public safety" shyt you've gone WAYYYYY off the deep end and are too far gone to see the effects of what you're proposing, and you're aligning yourself with oppression olympic whites whose sole purpose is to take over neighborhoods and become those communities rather than being part of them.

I truly hope that you're not a Black man because you're so far gone you can't even conceptualize that what you're doing is destroying and gentrifying New York City.

i'm off the deep end?! you haven't proposed any public safety changes other than undoing safety improvements. you want ban uber and lyft which i really don't have strong disagreements about for other reasons but I know it's not going to do anything to improve traffic since uber and lyft are done with privately owned vehicles. an uber and lyft ban wouldn't reduce the number of cars in nyc and thus wouldn't necessarily reduce car traffic.
 

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i'm off the deep end?! you haven't proposed any public safety changes other than undoing safety improvements. you want ban uber and lyft which i really don't have strong disagreements about for other reasons but I know it's not going to do anything to improve traffic since uber and lyft are done with privately owned vehicles. an uber and lyft ban wouldn't reduce the number of cars in nyc and thus wouldn't necessarily reduce car traffic.
I proposed adding an all way stop sign to my street as well as speed bumps and you know what they did? They said NO

Ydannis Rodriguez stood right in front of a whole auditorium of people (and a lot of Black people) and said NO even when the residents who lived on the street said "We don't want this, we didn't ask for this, and the "community group" that put in the application for this won't even make themselves known to the public". And our street was never some murderous carmageddon block.

They made the shyt a "permanent" "Open Street"

Didn't give any reasoning, didn't give explanation why it's permanent....just a bunch of gentrifying CACs who want to be able to walk their dog in the middle of the street, or roll their future gentrifiers down the street instead of on the sidewalk like normal people.

Hell, I even gave you the example of what's going on on Gates and Vanderbilt, and you COMPLETELY ignored it because you got NOTHING.

This is how I KNOW you don't know what the fukk you're talking about because you don't know the particulars, you don't know the players, you know NOTHING

You just know you don't like cars

That's what makes it easy to break your shyt down brodie

And yes, removing Ubers and Lyfts from NYC would cause traffic to drop DRAMATICALLY because traffic was'nt this bad and accidents were not this frequent BEFORE Uber and Lyft, and you know this.

Ubers are personal vehicles but they still have to be registered with the TLC. I can't just up and decide to use my car as an Uber/Lift in NYC and you know this as well.

I'ma ask you again...where are you from, what is your race, and how long have you lived in NYC??

I'm from Brooklyn, I'm Black and I've lived here my whole life, and traffic and congestion was NOT this bad before Uber and Lyft and I can say that because I've been here and watched it increase because of ridesharing vehicles and the amount of ridesharing vehicles on the road.

Where are you from, what is your race, and how long have you lived in NYC??
 
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I proposed adding an all way stop sign to my street as well as speed bumps and you know what they did? They said NO

Ydannis Rodriguez stood right in front of a whole auditorium of people (and a lot of Black people) and said NO even when the residents who lived on the street said "We don't want this, we didn't ask for this, and the "community group" that put in the application for this won't even make themselves known to the public". And our street was never some murderous carmageddon block.

They made the shyt a "permanent" "Open Street"

Didn't give any reasoning, didn't give explanation why it's permanent....just a bunch of gentrifying CACs who want to be able to walk their dog in the middle of the street, or roll their future gentrifiers down the street instead of on the sidewalk like normal people.

Hell, I even gave you the example of what's going on on Gates and Vanderbilt, and you COMPLETELY ignored it because you got NOTHING.

This is how I KNOW you don't know what the fukk you're talking about because you don't know the particulars, you don't know the players, you know NOTHING

You just know you don't like cars

That's what makes it easy to break your shyt down brodie

And yes, removing Ubers and Lyfts from NYC would cause traffic to drop DRAMATICALLY because traffic was'nt this bad and accidents were not this frequent BEFORE Uber and Lyft, and you know this.

Ubers are personal vehicles but they still have to be registered with the TLC. I can't just up and decide to use my car as an Uber/Lift in NYC and you know this as well.

I'ma ask you again...where are you from, what is your race, and how long have you lived in NYC??

I'm from Brooklyn, I'm Black and I've lived here my whole life, and traffic and congestion was NOT this bad before Uber and Lyft and I can say that because I've been here and watched it increase because of ridesharing vehicles and the amount of ridesharing vehicles on the road.

Where are you from, what is your race, and how long have you lived in NYC??

I'm black, I was born in brooklyn and lived here my entire life.:stopitslime:
 

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I'm black, I was born in brooklyn and lived here my entire life.:stopitslime:
And yet you're ignoring the facts that I'm giving you, obfuscating facts about NYC driving and congestion, bike usage, traffic accidents, the role that the city is playing in "traffic safety and public safety", you don't even know how Uber and Lyft work because based on the past few posts, you seem to think someone can just buy a car and be an Uber/Lyft when regulations prohibit that.

You say you're from here but anyone who didn't just move here during the late Bloomberg Era/The DeBlasio Era (ie. the most recent gentrification wave in Brooklyn) would be able to tell you that traffic has NEVER been this bad.

You claim to be a public safety advocate, all while ignoring the fact that the City of New York are conducting land grabs in neighborhoods, removing parking spaces, in an effort to claim public safety and traffic improvements when really all it is is "the state" encroaching on the people.

You post car crash propaganda to play on the heartstrings of people who don't know better in order to paint a false picture in NYC regarding cars.

And this ain't the first time I told you about that Open Street shyt either, and you STILL have no answer for that. White people moving in to Black neighborhoods, claiming to be part of "Community Groups" that step OVER Community Boards and working directly with the DOT to make changes without actual input from communities, impacting neighborhoods without those neighborhoods actually having a say.

You know how much of a fukkboy you gotta be to be from here and in favor of the DOT reconfiguring a whole neighborhood and adding a plaza to the front of someone's building, despite the ACTUAL residents saying they don't want it, KNOWING that the groups pushing this shyt are young white gentrifiers who have no connection to the neighborhood, no actual ties to it, and are really just new day colonizers here to extract resources from it before they move on??

You've also made posts in favor of congestion pricing, which the majority of New Yorkers have shown THEY DON'T WANT

You just don't like cars.

Which is cool fine. But don't sit here and pretend we both don't know what you're doing.
 
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And yet you're ignoring the facts that I'm giving you, obfuscating facts about NYC driving and congestion, bike usage, traffic accidents, the role that the city is playing in "traffic safety and public safety", you don't even know how Uber and Lyft work because based on the past few posts, you seem to think someone can just buy a car and be an Uber/Lyft when regulations prohibit that.

You say you're from here but anyone who didn't just move here during the late Bloomberg Era/The DeBlasio Era (ie. the most recent gentrification wave in Brooklyn) would be able to tell you that traffic has NEVER been this bad.

You claim to be a public safety advocate, all while ignoring the fact that the City of New York are conducting land grabs in neighborhoods, removing parking spaces, in an effort to claim public safety and traffic improvements when really all it is is "the state" encroaching on the people.

You post car crash propaganda to play on the heartstrings of people who don't know better in order to paint a false picture in NYC regarding cars.

And this ain't the first time I told you about that Open Street shyt either, and you STILL have no answer for that. White people moving in to Black neighborhoods, claiming to be part of "Community Groups" that step OVER Community Boards and working directly with the DOT to make changes without actual input from communities, impacting neighborhoods without those neighborhoods actually having a say.

You know how much of a fukkboy you gotta be to be from here and in favor of the DOT reconfiguring a whole neighborhood and adding a plaza to the front of someone's building, despite the ACTUAL residents saying they don't want it, KNOWING that the groups pushing this shyt are young white gentrifiers who have no connection to the neighborhood, no actual ties to it, and are really just new day colonizers here to extract resources from it before they move on??

You just don't like cars.

Which is cool fine. But don't sit here and pretend we both don't know what you're doing.

search my posts on ride-sharing and TLC, I know exactly how uber and lyft operate in this city.

traffic was never this bad which makes your policy choices confusing, we need transportation alternatives! people are buying more and more cars especially since the pandemic and traffic isn't gonna get any better.

i was gonna post some data i was collecting in the NYC bike thread a few months back but my browser crashed and I didn't want to start the research process again. there was a government study that showed that the vast majority of americans on a daily basis don't travel more than 3 miles from their home. now imagine if people had better and more reliable public transit or protected bike lanes where they can choose those methods of transportation instead of driving everywhere.

parking is bad in NYC, a place in which more than half the residents don't own cars. how do you not see the parking and traffic situation getting worse if folks feel like they have to own a car to get around?

one night about 3 years ago I spent 3 hours looking for parking 11:xx pm to 2:xx am and it wasn't because of open streets, uber or lyft.
 
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search my posts on ride-sharing and TLC, I know exactly how uber and lyft operate in this city.
A few posts ago you JUST said that Uber/Lyfts are personal cars and that removing them from NYC wouldn't decrease congestion or traffic

i'm off the deep end?! you haven't proposed any public safety changes other than undoing safety improvements. you want ban uber and lyft which i really don't have strong disagreements about for other reasons but I know it's not going to do anything to improve traffic since uber and lyft are done with privately owned vehicles. an uber and lyft ban wouldn't reduce the number of cars in nyc and thus wouldn't necessarily reduce car traffic.


When the fact of the matter is, you can't just BE an Uber/Lyft because you have to be licensed by the TLC, meaning, that the City of New York is essentially CAUSING congestion and traffic by allowing ridesharing vehicles to proliferate, all while claiming that there are too many cars on the road and that it's a public safety issue and that there needs to be a tax in order to decrease congestion.

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I been told y’all New Yorkers are shytty drivers (no offense)

This is how people from NYC drive…

They take driving for a joke. It’s for the thrill off passing everybody fast and recklessly. You gotta be on point with your head on a swivel at all times, whether your a the one driving or a pedestrian. RIP to those two victims.
 

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A few posts ago you JUST said that Uber/Lyfts are personal cars and that removing them from NYC wouldn't decrease congestion or traffic




When the fact of the matter is, you can't just BE an Uber/Lyft because you have to be licensed by the TLC, meaning, that the City of New York is essentially CAUSING congestion and traffic by allowing ridesharing vehicles to proliferate, all while claiming that there are too many cars on the road and that it's a public safety issue and that there needs to be a tax in order to decrease congestion.

"It must be two sides...." - Shawty Lo

theres a difference between personal cars and commercial license plates. people literally take their personal vehicles and get TLC plates to do ride-sharing.

it's you who don't know how uber and lyft operate because they literally bullied their way into the market and gained enough public support that local officials in governments all over the world officially let them operate.



 
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Brodie I even broke down to you how the DOT has been collaborating with community groups that DO NOT REPRESENT THE COMMUNITY in order to make changes to these communities without actual input from long time residents (BLACK AND BROWN PEOPLE) or Community Boards, whose purpose is to represent the interests of the community.

As I've said before, you and I might agree on some things, but with respect to this "transportation and public safety" shyt you've gone WAYYYYY off the deep end and are too far gone to see the effects of what you're proposing, and you're aligning yourself with oppression olympic whites whose sole purpose is to take over neighborhoods and become those communities rather than being part of them.

I truly hope that you're not a Black man because you're so far gone you can't even conceptualize that what you're doing is destroying and gentrifying New York City.

There are definitely places that need traffic improvements....you and I BOTH know that's not what you, or any of these CAC anti-car groups in NYC are about and that's why this whole conversation is disingenuous to begin with.

You're doing the equivalent of when CACs say Black people need to be lifted out of poverty (ah sure we can all agree on that) all while calling for stronger drug laws, longer sentences, and harsher policing, which will simply lead to more Black men especially being incarcerated and eliminated from being able to be lifted out of poverty.

Yeah...you want bollards....what you're also not saying is you want to end the private ownership of cars, remove the ability to park on the street, turn streets into "open plazas" and changing neighborhoods so that people can't even drive through them.

And THAT'S the tiny fine print that the NYC biker bros (CACS) and bleeding heart liberals don't want you to see
What do you even need a car for if you live in NYC? It’s a city with one of the best - if not the best - transit systems in the world. That’s what he means by “car culture.” In NY, owning a car is superfluous, an indulgence that people partake in without giving thought to how utterly unnecessary it is.

:francis:
 

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theres a difference between personal cars and commercial license plates. people literally take their personal vehicles and get TLC plates to do ride-sharing.

it's you who don't know how uber and lyft operate because they literally bullied their way into the market and gained enough public support that local officials in governments all over the world officially let them operate.




You cannot use your personal vehicle as an Uber/Lyft in NYC unless you register it as a ridesharing vehicle with the City of New York, specifically with the TLC.

I cannot simply start using my own personal vehicle, as a ridesharing vehicle UNLESS I get permission from the TLC, which has capped the amount of those vehicles that are allowed, since about 2018 because there were way too many vehicles on the road, and people were purchasing vehicles for the sole purpose OF BEING A RIDESHARE VEHICLE.

So....as I've said before...the City of New York....allowed the proliferation of rideshare vehicles, which cause an exponential increase in the amount of cars, traffic, and congestion in NYC

And now, the regular degular New Yorker, is having their ability to own a car, infringed upon, BY THE CITY OF NEW YORK....who allowed the traffic and congestion to occur in the first place!

And to make matters worse, groups like Trans Alt, receive donations from Uber and Lyft because these groups, as well as StreetsPAC have gone on the record by saying that the way to decrease "pollution" and prevent "climate change" is to...you guessed it, use public transportation, ride bikes or....utilize rideshare services rather than owning a car!
 

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What do you even need a car for if you live in NYC? It’s a city with one of the best - if not the best - transit systems in the world. That’s what he means by “car culture.” In NY, owning a car is superfluous, an indulgence that people partake in without giving thought to how utterly unnecessary it is.

:francis:
I should be able to come and go as I please, and what I own, purchase, or do with my money should be up to me

When we start talking about what we "need" and "don't need" is when we start getting into dangerous territory breh because there's a fukk ton of shyt we "don't need" if we want to be completely honest.

You don't need a car if you live in MANHATTAN and that's where people get it twisted
 
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