CP3’s case for MVP

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My point is, CP3 is a big reason for the Suns current success, but he's not the savior. The Suns were always headed in this direction with Monty and James Jones. That's why CP3 pushed for the trade. He saw where the team was going after the bubble.

There's a lot of young talent on the Suns that was growing fast even before CP3 joined. He just helped speed up the process. He's a great addition to the Suns but he's not completely carrying the team like other MVP candidates.

Monty Williams establishing a new culture in Phoenix helps. James Jones putting together one of the best benches in the league helps. Devin Booker being a rising star helps. It's a complete team effort along with Chris Paul and his greatness.

He still has an organic narrative to win MVP, which is why my original point was. He deserves MVP credit for what he has done to that team, which is what he did for OKC also last year.
 

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My point is, CP3 is a big reason for the Suns current success, but he's not the savior. The Suns were always headed in this direction with Monty and James Jones. That's why CP3 pushed for the trade. He saw where the team was going after the bubble.

There's a lot of young talent on the Suns that was growing fast even before CP3 joined. He just helped speed up the process. He's a great addition to the Suns but he's not completely carrying the team like other MVP candidates.

Monty Williams establishing a new culture in Phoenix helps. James Jones putting together one of the best benches in the league helps. Devin Booker being a rising star helps. It's a complete team effort along with Chris Paul and his greatness.

cp3 has the highest net rating on the team he’s in the top 40 in the nba at age 35,offense is better when he’s on the court suns have the 3rd best net rating in the nba. Guaranteed none of these things happening if Chris Emmanuel Paul wasn’t added to this perennial inept team.
 
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At this point I don't see how you could have CP3 higher than Dame on any MVP ranking. At best, he would just crack in the top 5 at #5
 
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Time isn’t an excuse to overlook precedent. For years, Devin Bookers have been putting up empty numbers with no impact on winning. People would be lying if they said that Phoenix would be this good if CP3 was on the roster.

If Bron was in CP3’s spot, then he’d be getting hyped up as MVP. You don’t have to manufacture a narrative to win MVP as it’s already there without it.
Time is an "excuse" because an MVP from 15 years ago has no bearing, on top of other separating factors. If that's the case where does that ball stop rolling? If it was something 5-ish years ago I'd agree.

I agree that CP3 needs to be talked about more. But we know he's not getting it.
 

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Time is an "excuse" because an MVP from 15 years ago has no bearing, on top of other separating factors. If that's the case where does that ball stop rolling? If it was something 5-ish years ago I'd agree.

I agree that CP3 needs to be talked about more. But we know he's not getting it.

Other guys aren't either, but it doesn't prevent the discussion from being made.
 
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He still has an organic narrative to win MVP, which is why my original point was. He deserves MVP credit for what he has done to that team, which is what he did for OKC also last year.

Cannot be overstated

Chris was sent to OKC to DIE. His attitude & leadership that he displayed within that situation has earned him huge brownie points throughout the league. It's the reason why the coaches voted him in to the All Star game. It will be the reason that he wins MVP if Phoenix can chase down Utah for best record in the league, which is looking like a reality as Utah is coming back to earth
 

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Are we sure though that those bubble performances would have carried over though? A lot of things that happened in the bubble haven’t carried over into the next season.

He is also the best and most impactful player on the team as Booker has been putting up empty numbers for years prior. Same KAT before Jimmy Butler came into town and change the direction of that team those couple of years he was there.


i dont think they would be in contention for a 1 seed, but they would be in the playoffs.

hes having a great year tho, and had a great season in OKC last year as well.


This dumb mf really compared 8 games in a bubble to 37 games where the suns have improved in every aspect which is over half the season


youve been following me around talking real slick lately.

tone that chit down, unless you willing to pull up.
 

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If anything they are on equal terms of being clutch depending on what your definition clutch is.

Im definitely putting Paul at the line before Bron to win the game.
In that situation, and only that situation. I'd pick Bron for a final shot, and literally everything else. Bron in the final five minutes is much more clutch, with the obvious exception of free throw shooting.
 

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In that situation, and only that situation. I'd pick Bron for a final shot, and literally everything else. Bron in the final five minutes is much more clutch, with the obvious exception of free throw shooting.
Ok, if that’s you definition of clutch.

That’s a hell of a lot of time but I’m not gonna argue definition of clutch.
 

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Was it inevitable though? A lot of circumstances and performances that happened in the bubble have transferred over to the regular season. They would also not have the same record as they do how if CP3 wasn’t on the roster. He has brought stability to the Suns franchise who has been a joke for years. If dudes love to talk up Lebron’s impact on a franchise, then you shouldn’t be downplaying or ignoring what CP3 has done.

Well your second sentence kinda proved my point, no? I said they went 8-0 in the bubble. And you said alot of what happnened in the bubble has transferred over to the regular season.
 
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