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https://www.thecoli.com/threads/covid-19-pandemic-coronavirus.757032/page-661#post-38013271
Infectious disease expert says coronavirus won't slow down until 'about 60% or 70%' of American population is infected, points out US is at 'about 5%'


A waiter at Mon Ami Gabi, a French restaurant in Maryland, wears a protective face mask as they serve customers outdoors amid the coronavirus pandemic on June 12, 2020 in Bethesda, Maryland.

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  • The director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Prevention said the US is in an "unsure moment" regarding the effects of states reopening and protests during the novel coronavirus pandemic.

  • Dr. Michael Osterholm told "Fox News Sunday" that it's too early to tell if protests have been a source of widespread infections, but early data suggests the demonstrations aren't responsible for rises in 22 states.

  • The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention predicted on June 12 that the US coronavirus death toll could increase to 130,000 by July 4.

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Dr. Michael Osterholm, the director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Prevention, said Sunday that the US is in an "unsure moment" as states reopen and new cases emerge.

"We have to be humble and say we're in an unsure moment," Osterholm said on "Fox News Sunday," adding that states across the country are in varied stages of the pandemic as 22 have recorded an increase in coronavirus cases, eight in plateaus, and 21 with decreasing cases.


Osterholm was speaking as states have been reopening businesses for weeks, Americans flocked to warm weather, and widespread protests drew people to the streets in cities across the country. The first few weeks of June have seen sharp rises in new cases and hospitalizations.

The US hit a grim milestone two weeks into June as it marked more than 2 million infected and 115,000 dead from the virus. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention predicted on June 12 that the US coronavirus death toll could increase to 130,000 by July 4.

"About 5% of the US population has been infected to date with the virus, this virus is not going to rest until it gets to about 60% or 70%," Osterholm said. "When I say rest, I mean just slow down, so one way or another we're going to see a lot of additional cases."Â

The expert told host Chris Wallace that the increase cannot only be attributed to increasingly available testing, and it's too early to tell if protests have been a source of widespread infections, but early data suggests not.

"These next weeks, the two weeks are going to be the telling time, we just don't know," he said. "We're not driving this tiger, we're riding it."

"My biggest concern is if cases start to disappear across the country, suggesting we are in a trough" that would lead to a second wave of the virus, Osterholm said.

Dr. Anthony Fauci has recently downplayed concerns that the recent rise in cases of the novel coronavirus in the US doesn't a "second spike" of infections, and a seasonal resurgence was "not inevitable."

Though Fauci told CNN on June 12 that indicators like hospitalizations could still spell concern for officials, increased testing and CDC capabilities could counter a possible resurgence in cases.

The lack of connection between protests and a rise in infections will be interpreted politically instead of scientifically.
 

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Yeah, but outside of the hospitals being overran with cases, the herd immunity theory people have been running with only works if you can't get reinfected for at least awhile after initially catching it. Has it been confirmed that people are in fact not getting it twice? Plus it's still highly contagious. It's basically saying fukk the sick and elderly and only the strong survive.


https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...th/herd-immunity-and-coronavirus/art-20486808

Herd immunity can also be reached when a sufficient number of people in the population have recovered from a disease and have developed antibodies against future infection. For example, those who survived the 1918 flu (influenza) pandemic were later immune to infection with the H1N1 flu, a subtype of influenza A. During the 2009-10 flu season, H1N1 caused the respiratory infection in humans that was commonly referred to as swine flu.

However, there are some major problems with relying on community infection to create herd immunity to the virus that causes COVID-19. First, it isn't yet clear if infection with the COVID-19 virus makes a person immune to future infection.

Research suggests that after infection with some coronaviruses, reinfection with the same virus — though usually mild and only happening in a fraction of people — is possible after a period of months or years. Further research is needed to determine the protective effect of antibodies to the virus in those who have been infected.

Even if infection with the COVID-19 virus creates long-lasting immunity, a large number of people would have to become infected to reach the herd immunity threshold. Experts estimate that in the U.S., 70% of the population — more than 200 million people — would have to recover from COVID-19 to halt the epidemic. If many people become sick with COVID-19 at once, the health care system could quickly become overwhelmed. This amount of infection could also lead to serious complications and millions of deaths, especially among older people and those who have chronic conditions.
 
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Yeah, but outside of the hospitals being overran with cases, the herd immunity theory people have been running with only works if you can't get reinfected for at least awhile after initially catching it. Has it been confirmed that people are in fact not getting it twice? Plus it's still highly contagious. It's basically saying fukk the sick and elderly and only the strong survive.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...th/herd-immunity-and-coronavirus/art-20486808

No it has not been confirmed in any studies that have seen. It is anticipated that re-infection is unlikely (if you have antibodies).

However some people recover without developing antibodies (reports of 10%) and for those that do develop them, we do not know how long those antibodies last (preliminary guesstimates of 3-4 months to a few years). To complicate the question of herd immunity we also need to remember that the herd needs to have a boundary, remember that some animals can operate as reservoirs and remember that the immunity of your local cluster does not protect you as an individual if you interact with non-local people or environments.
 

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Loner? Hates family? No social skills? Virgin? Can't drive? Plays video games daily?

Take your pick, when it comes to these "I want the worst to happen" weirdos :dry:
Or....he had a lot of put options on various airlines. Relax breh
 

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All this whatever percent capacity is useless. No restaurant cares what capacity they are at nor will anyone enforce it.

Places are going to be at 200% capacity cause business want to make up for lost revenue

also there’s no policing of the standard

these state government set the capacity rules but did nothing to make sure they’re being enforced
 
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