COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

[Legal]

Didn't need a report to say this is factual.

People are out here moving like fukking IDIOTS.

If the Governor weren't such an idiot, we'd definitely have at least rolled out a soft shutdown.

 

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Yeah, but outside of the hospitals being overran with cases, the herd immunity theory people have been running with only works if you can't get reinfected for at least awhile after initially catching it. Has it been confirmed that people are in fact not getting it twice? Plus it's still highly contagious. It's basically saying fukk the sick and elderly and only the strong survive.


https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases...th/herd-immunity-and-coronavirus/art-20486808

UPDATE: from 2 hours ago

Not all coronavirus patients develop Covid-19 antibodies, study finds

The results raise questions for the effectiveness of antibody tests to establish whether someone has had Covid-19

Researchers led by St George’s, University of London and St George’s University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust found that the majority of people have antibodies in their blood for up to two months after diagnosis of Covid-19.

But between 2 and 8.5 percent of the 177 patients in the study – all of whom had tested positive for the infection – did not in turn test positive for Covid-19 antibodies.

Professor Krishna said there was a need for more research to determine whether or not people who do have antibodies are protected from further infection.

“The best way to establish that would be take people who do have detectable antibodies and then see, when they are exposed to infection, just what their chances are of getting another infection. That sort of process would take time and may also take a higher risk of infection than – thank goodness – we have right now.”

And he said that while the study offered reassurance in showing that most people who have had the infection continue to make antibodies for at least two months, there were as yet no definitive answers on immunity.

“I’d love to be able to state things with that great certainty that everyone wants to hear,” said Professor Krishna.

“The problem is that we’ve got to be cautious. We’re going to have to wait for work where people who have the antibodies are definitely shown to not get an infection again with this virus.”

Not all coronavirus patients develop Covid-19 antibodies, study finds

 

[Sad Bunny]

All this whatever percent capacity is useless. No restaurant cares what capacity they are at nor will anyone enforce it.

Places are going to be at 200% capacity cause business want to make up for lost revenue

I was Furniture shopping over the weekend and I stopped at the mall in Delaware for lunch and it was so crowded and people didn't even have on masks.

Driving along all of the popular highways I saw a lines of people waiting to go inside certain businesses

People just don't care anymore

 

[At30wecashout]

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UPDATE: from 2 hours ago

Not all coronavirus patients develop Covid-19 antibodies, study finds

The results raise questions for the effectiveness of antibody tests to establish whether someone has had Covid-19

Researchers led by St George’s, University of London and St George’s University Hospitals NHS Foundation Trust found that the majority of people have antibodies in their blood for up to two months after diagnosis of Covid-19.

But between 2 and 8.5 percent of the 177 patients in the study – all of whom had tested positive for the infection – did not in turn test positive for Covid-19 antibodies.

Professor Krishna said there was a need for more research to determine whether or not people who do have antibodies are protected from further infection.

“The best way to establish that would be take people who do have detectable antibodies and then see, when they are exposed to infection, just what their chances are of getting another infection. That sort of process would take time and may also take a higher risk of infection than – thank goodness – we have right now.”

And he said that while the study offered reassurance in showing that most people who have had the infection continue to make antibodies for at least two months, there were as yet no definitive answers on immunity.

“I’d love to be able to state things with that great certainty that everyone wants to hear,” said Professor Krishna.

“The problem is that we’ve got to be cautious. We’re going to have to wait for work where people who have the antibodies are definitely shown to not get an infection again with this virus.”

Not all coronavirus patients develop Covid-19 antibodies, study finds

That’s the thing about this situation, there are a lot of unknowns and people take that to mean they can move as per normal rather than move with caution. Remember a few weeks ago we had the “yall always say wait two weeks” folks who are not moving right and also ignoring the fact that their states had a vested interest in making their numbers look better? I even saw a whole celebration because a critic of hydroxycloroquine used flawed data to show it was harmful, thus giving some people license to believe any criticism was partisan and wrong.

People are operating foolishly under the belief that because we have experienced things before, other things must be just like those things. This country is dumb and doomed.

 

[LeVraiPapi]

When was the last time you posted anything relevant in here? All you do is whine about the contributions of others. Go to the COVID circlejerk in HL where they will coddle you and protect you from the big bad meanies with differing opinions.

Oh, and when are you going to blow the whistle on Florida? You hint that you have proof they are cooking the books yet you only post about it vaguely on the Coli. shyt or get off the fukking pot. You could actually be saving lives, you know, something productive instead of whining all day. Whine whine whine. Cry cry cry. At least post an article between your bytchfests, shyt.

Because now, as it stands you, you aren't contributing anything but uncontrolled temper tantrums. Get your emotions together you 3rd world fakkit.

I concede your bytching does come from a good place but the fakkit energy surrounding it does no one any good.

Titty-Man Liggins barking again huh?

I will stop addressing you because you tried to kill yourself before and I do not want to be associated with that

All love for you

 

[eXodus]

That’s the thing about this situation, there are a lot of unknowns and people take that to mean they can move as per normal rather than move with caution. Remember a few weeks ago we had the “yall always say wait two weeks” folks who are not moving right and also ignoring the fact that their states had a vested interest in making their numbers look better? I even saw a whole celebration because a critic of hydroxycloroquine used flawed data to show it was harmful, thus giving some people license to believe any criticism was partisan and wrong.

People are operating foolishly under the belief that because we have experienced things before, other things must be just like those things. This country is dumb and doomed.

Trump speaking on hydroxycloroquine was the worst possible thing for that treatment as far as being accurately assessed..it opened the floodgates for political, partisan non-sense.

I still don’t think there’s been a consistent hydroxycloroquine trial, combined with zinc at the early onset of symptoms. Only without zinc and/or after hospitalisation smh

 

[Tribaligenesis]

Trump speaking on hydroxycloroquine was the worst possible thing for that treatment as far as being accurately assessed..it opened the floodgates for political, partisan non-sense.

I still don’t think there’s been a consistent hydroxycloroquine trial, combined with zinc at the early onset of symptoms. Only without zinc and/or after hospitalisation smh

Actually there has been at Oxford University, think this is the result which convinced the FDA to get rid of it.

 

[eXodus]

Actually there has been at Oxford University, think this is the result which convinced the FDA to get rid of it.

Yea, that's the study that the FDA used to proceed with revoking emergency authorization but the study didn't include Zinc. I think the full list from the HCQ group were:
HCQ
Azithromycin
Lopinavir and
corticosteroids.

Also, one of the requirements was hospitalisation, so it would be pretty late in the symptom progression (likely 5+ days after onset of symptoms).

1 Eligibility
Patients are eligible for the study if all of the following are true:
(i) Hospitalised
(ii) SARS-CoV-2 infection (clinically suspected or laboratory confirmed)
(iii) No medical history that might, in the opinion of the attending clinician, put the patient at significant risk if he/she were to participate in the trial

https://www.recoverytrial.net/files/recovery-protocol-v6-0-2020-05-14.pdf

The idea of using chloroquine as an antiviral, in theory, was to stop the virus from replicating before the viral load overwhelmed the immune system. Sort of like Tamiflu for influenza, you have take within 48 hours of symptoms so that it can stop the virus from replicating, otherwise.. its too late and won't be effective.

 

[Tribaligenesis]

Yea, that's the study that the FDA used to proceed with the revoke emergency authorization but the study didn't include Zinc. I think the full list from the HCQ control group were:
HCQ
Azithromycin
Lopinavir and
corticosteroids.

Also, one of the requirements was hospitalisation, so it would be pretty late in the symptom progression (likely 5+ days after onset of symptoms).

The idea of using chloroquine as an antiviral, in theory, was to stop the virus from replicating before the viral load overwhelmed the immune system. Sort of like Tamiflu for influenza, you have take within 48 hours of symptoms so that it can stop the virus from replicating, otherwise.. its too late and won't be effective.

The initial assumption and a lot of evidence actually points towards it now is that covid-19 is somewhat of hybrid between being a cardio-vascular and a respiratory infection(which if you think about it, is absolutely insane). hydrochloroquine might be effective when it comes to the cardio vascular part of the infection(there are far superiors products out there) but would literally have no effect when it comes to the respiratory part, Infact it might actually make it more dangerous for the patients

 

[MarcP]

This motherfukker is crazy

 

[eXodus]

The initial assumption and a lot of evidence actually points towards it now is that covid-19 is somewhat of hybrid between being a cardio-vascular and a respiratory infection(which if you think about it, is absolutely insane). hydrochloroquine might be effective when it comes to the cardio vascular part of the infection(there are far superiors products out there) but would literally have no effect when it comes to the respiratory part, Infact it might actually make it more dangerous for the patients

It's crazy as FUKK right bro?! lol this shyt is demonic.

My understanding of the usage of HCQ was that it's not effective in-itself, but since it acts as a Zinc-ionophore its benefit would be helping Zinc get into the lipid membrane of the cell in an effort to prevent viral replication.

Chloroquine Is a Zinc Ionophore

The molecule Zinc was able to inhibit the RNA-dependent RNA polymerase from replicating. (Below an older study focusing on coronaviruses in general, SARS in the actual quote):

More specifically, Zn2+ was found to block the initiation step of EAV RNA synthesis, whereas in the case of the SARS-CoV RdRp elongation was inhibited and template binding reduced.

Here, we not only show that corona- and arterivirus replication can be inhibited by increased Zn2+ levels, but also use both isolated replication complexes and purified recombinant RdRps to demonstrate that this effect may be based on direct inhibition of nidovirus RdRps

Zn2+ Inhibits Coronavirus and Arterivirus RNA Polymerase Activity In Vitro and Zinc Ionophores Block the Replication of These Viruses in Cell Culture

The NYU study that combined HCQ w Zinc and Azithromycin was pretty successful but not many studies have used this same combination since. Either way, the ship has sailed on HCQ

 

[luvaznpoon]

Test came back negative

 

[Red Shield]

I was Furniture shopping over the weekend and I stopped at the mall in Delaware for lunch and it was so crowded and people didn't even have on masks.

Driving along all of the popular highways I saw a lines of people waiting to go inside certain businesses

People just don't care anymore

nope

all you can do now is hope shyt doesn't get worse.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Titty-Man Liggins barking again huh?

I will stop addressing you because you tried to kill yourself before and I do not want to be associated with that

All love for you

Stop spreading misinformation.

Thought about it. Never tried it.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Just left Arizona for LA. I was there all weekend doing a reset. It was over 100 everyday. From what I saw mask usage was maybe 40%. Economic and social activity was similar to what I saw when I visited in 2011.

A lot of typical suburban style shopping centers/strip malls there.