COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)
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Mike Pompeo's intelligence basis for his Wuhan lab claims
by Tom Rogan
| May 06, 2020 04:19 PM
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has an unhelpfully antagonistic relationship with the media. Still, Pompeo has a legitimate Intelligence Community foundation for his assertions that a quarantine control failure at the Wuhan Institute of Virology was responsible for the coronavirus outbreak.
That bears noting in light of the media criticism Pompeo is receiving for his comment that there is "enormous evidence" to suggest that the Wuhan lab is the outbreak's source. Pompeo reaffirmed that sentiment on Wednesday, stating that "people share data sets and come to different levels of confidence," adding that there is "significant evidence" a lab control failure is responsible.
Pompeo is correct on the top line here: There is significant evidence of a lab-related failure.
Driven by National Security Agency collection efforts, the U.S. Intelligence Community has excellent "big data" and other discipline analysis offering high confidence of Beijing's significant effort to hide evidence of the lab's research activity, personnel movement, and general operation prior to, during, and after the immediate aftermath of the virus outbreak in December 2019. Big data analysis focuses on identifying behavior on the basis of data patterns, however, is not yet sufficient to offer a multi-agency intelligence community high confidence assessment that the lab is the source of the outbreak.
There's another important point to note here: evidence of covering up lab-related activity does not necessarily evince that the lab was the outbreak site per se. Pompeo is leaning on the former as the foundation for his statements on the latter. Still, that the Chinese have tried to cover up and are continuing to cover up the lab's operations in a very significant way is striking. It strongly suggests they have something important to hide.
Others disagree. CNN reported on Tuesday that the U.S.-led "Five Eyes" intelligence alliance — Australia, Britain, Canada, and New Zealand — disagree with Pompeo's assessment. An unnamed "Western diplomat" told CNN, "We think it's highly unlikely" that a lab "accident" was responsible. They believe the virus occurred by animal-to-human interaction at a Wuhan wet market. That diplomat says the Five Eyes "are coalescing around this assessment." CNN reports that a Five Eyes diplomat agrees with the first diplomat's statement.
My sourcing suggests that this is not entirely accurate.
While it is true that Pompeo is going further than others, certain Five Eye allies agree that the evidence for a lab cover is very compelling. Even, that is, if they're not jumping to Pompeo's secondary conclusion that this proves the lab is the coronavirus source. Equally important here is that the United States has not shared the entirety of its lab-related intelligence with its allies, or, possibly, even with all executive branch policymakers. That is to protect keystone sources and to gather more corroborating intelligence that can earn allied confidence in a way that protects the source concern.
In short, Pompeo is leaning forward but not without a legitimate intelligence foundation. The intelligence process is continuing to work this issue, and this story is far from over.
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They’ll find a treatment drug way before they’ll find a vaccine
Action Mike
All praise..
If you have a job or steady income be grateful man.
This whole thing is painful and as much as I'm for people staying in, I totally get wanting to open the economy back up ASAP.
This whole thing is painful and as much as I'm for people staying in, I totally get wanting to open the economy back up ASAP.
They either need to show the evidence or shut up.
The fact this government has failed to produce any evidence and the fact that the intelligence agencies in not just one but multiple countries have stated they have not see such a thing and have less political reasons to lie, tells me this is part of a bs propaganda campaign.
Again, Trump showed his hand at a presser when someone asked him why he called it "Chinese Virus". It was just to get back the Chinese propaganda. Given the Chinese haven't backed down and going around still claiming it was created by the US is just a sign to me that this is just another move in a rhetoric war.
But China has even scaled back in this regard and there was some diplomat who said that they were also capping a bit and really don't have much evidence it was created by the US and was only saying that because they felt they were being attacked by Trump.
We're dealing with elite level sourcing right now on par with Trump and Russia.
Remember, the CIA had to exfiltrate the source behind Putin ordering the hacks to help Trump C.I.A. Informant Extracted From Russia Had Sent Secrets to U.S. for Decades
I bet they're sitting on the smoking gun and are waiting on the right moment to call China's bluff. The USA ain't out here just talking that recklessly.
They're opening that window and I think we're about to walk through it
Theo Penn
on that Earl Stevens wine
Stay home, get your daily walk done, go home, cook, relax, blaze and watch movies or listen to music. Daily. What's so uncomfortable or distressing about that?
If it's a year, so what? Enjoy the time and stop stressing
People hate their home and their own company so much that they're willing to risk infection just to sit in a crowded bar or restaurant that's packed full of filthy whites and chinks?
We're dealing with elite level sourcing right now on par with Trump and Russia.
Remember, the CIA had to exfiltrate the source behind Putin ordering the hacks to help Trump C.I.A. Informant Extracted From Russia Had Sent Secrets to U.S. for Decades
I bet they're sitting on the smoking gun and are waiting on the right moment to call China's bluff. The USA ain't out here just talking that recklessly.
They're opening that window and I think we're about to walk through it
Nah, they are just bullshytting. Unless I'm mistaken I don't even see any spokesperson for the CIA coming out to co-sign Pompeo. The only ones pushing it is those in Trump's circle.Also, again, while I know we are prone to thinking about the US being the number 1 in everything( regardless of the fact this situation has exposed the US something serious), the fact other countries intelligence agencies directly contradict the US tell me they are full of shyt. I don't think the US has some special secrets these other countries failed to uncover.
I don't think there is some secret clandestine moves being made here as, once again, I think this administration is just petty. Previous administrations would not even bother to respond to the absurd lie the US created the virus because everyone and their momma know this came from China and its just coping by the Chinese to take the blame off of themselves.
We're dealing with elite level sourcing right now on par with Trump and Russia.
Remember, the CIA had to exfiltrate the source behind Putin ordering the hacks to help Trump C.I.A. Informant Extracted From Russia Had Sent Secrets to U.S. for Decades
I bet they're sitting on the smoking gun and are waiting on the right moment to call China's bluff. The USA ain't out here just talking that recklessly.
They're opening that window and I think we're about to walk through it
this is Trump’s USA. They out here talking recklessly everyday
You don't know this, do you?
Also, again, while I know we are prone to thinking about the US being the number 1 in everything( regardless of the fact this situation has exposed the US something serious), the fact other countries intelligence agencies directly contradict the US tell me they are full of shyt. I don't think the US has some special secrets these other countries failed to uncover.
I don't think there is some secret clandestine moves being made here as, once again, I think this administration is just petty. Previous administrations would not even bother to respond to the absurd lie the US created the virus because everyone and their momma know this came from China and its just coping by the Chinese to take the blame off of themselves.
Theres been more than enough reporting about the weak security at their BSL4 labs going back FIVE years.
What more do you need? The actual "BIN LADEN DETERMINED TO STRIKE USA" memo???
Also, other countries HAVENT ruled out the accidental leak. FIVE EYES is definitely leaving the door open to the lab leak. UK/NZ/AUS/CAN/USA
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The smoking gun could be targeted inserts in the SARS COV II genome
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We're dealing with elite level sourcing right now on par with Trump and Russia.
Remember, the CIA had to exfiltrate the source behind Putin ordering the hacks to help Trump C.I.A. Informant Extracted From Russia Had Sent Secrets to U.S. for Decades
I bet they're sitting on the smoking gun and are waiting on the right moment to call China's bluff. The USA ain't out here just talking that recklessly.
They're opening that window and I think we're about to walk through it
The smoking gun could be targeted inserts in the SARS COV II genome
.I'm thinking more along the lines of NSA intercepts..
The smoking gun could be targeted inserts in the SARS COV II genome
Theres a reason the DOD knew of this in NOVEMBER.
Theres already open source reporting showing missing lab researchers and theres still no updates on proof of life of some of those workers who are allegedly dead.
I think the majority of the problem is some people wont be able to afford to not work for 12-18 more months
also like I said there’s no proof quarantining is a better plan. Some think it’s worse to stay inside all day