COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

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Almost all new infections in the past week are related to Italy or Iran. I guess the quarantine measures and agressive testings in China and South Korea are more succesfull in containing it around Wuhan and Daegu respectively.
 
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think it's safe to say this virus won't be spreading on the motherland besides South African and North Africa because of the Mediterranean climate
there's been only 2 confirm cases in sub saharan africa this whole month and the half. That shyt would have spread by now considering how densely populated West Africa is. I don't need expert to tell me shyt.
I disagree bro.

Confusing absence of confirmed cases and the fact that it can't spread.

Do you believe African countries are testing for this shyt? Where people die everyday from God knows what and people chalk it up to "he was sick :yeshrug:"?

Even if the virus was deep in Africa, we would have no way of knowing it, and the world wouldn't care. And with the number of Chinese people deep in the continent it's probably already making unnoticed damage.
 

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I disagree bro.

Confusing absence of confirmed cases and the fact that it can't spread.

Do you believe African countries are testing for this shyt? Where people die everyday from God knows what and people chalk it up to "he was sick :yeshrug:"?

Even if the virus was deep in Africa, we would have no way of knowing it, and the world wouldn't care. And with the number of Chinese people deep in the continent it's probably already making unnoticed damage.
it's been 2 months and only 3 cases all from non africans coming in. Do you think all the african countries are THAT FAR behind in medical kit and equipment to not have found more cases?
 

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Swine flu has a vaccine that is included in the regular flu vaccine and isn’t very deadly.

During its outbreak 60 million in the US got it but just roughly 12,000 died. I think that’s like a .02 case mortality rate. So it’s basically like an additional flu, definitely level 1 of 5 on the pandemic severity index.

Ebola is extremely deadly. Like a 30% death rate. Folks in the Congo still struggle with this but our CDC is very active there, keeping it at bay. It’s not very transmissive because by the time a person becomes contagious, they are basically bed-ridden, and visibly sick so it’s easier to isolate those cases and prevent community spread.

sars is the most similar (hence this is sars cov 2)

similar symptoms.. with SARS 1 though..its more deadly (9 percent case mortality rate vs roughly 2%) but it did not have this weird asymptomatic incubation period where people who didn’t yet feel sick could pass the virus.

so it was relatively easier to find those who were exposed by doing contact tracing on who was infected. With this, you don’t know who’s infected for a long period of time thus you can’t reliably determine who was exposed and you can’t trace the epidemiological connections well enough to stamp to it.

plus with sars cov 2, the timing has been bad so far. China had an initial outbreak during Chinese New Year where millions of people traveled home to visit family and then likely back to where ever they currently live. In the US we have an administration that uninvested in global infectious disease control and have not set up our national infrastructure to battle something like this.

Here is a good documentary on how the world responded to and stamped out Sars 1:


Here’s a vid of Bill Gates discussing what we would have to do to be ready for a pandemic 4 years ago..
We ain’t ready



1 month before COVID19 hit the Wuhan blocks, a coronavirus from a pig was thrown into a pandemic scenario exercise....

:patrice:..... so talented at predicting :leostare:

 
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EDIT: the below response was to the initial post regarding bill gates.

what do you mean about the pig prediction tho bro?


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The idea is based on the theory that if you lower childhood mortality (through vaccines, health care etc.) population growth also slows/becomes more steady. I don’t have a strong opinion on that theory but merely attempting to clarify his argument (which wasn’t stated well at all in that talk)

Melinda: Saving children’s lives is the goal that launched our global work. It’s an end in itself. But then we learned it has all these other benefits as well. If parents believe their children will survive—and if they have the power to time and space their pregnancies—they choose to have fewer children.

Bill: When a mother can choose how many children to have, her children are healthier, they’re better nourished, their mental capacities are higher—and parents have more time and money to spend on each child’s health and schooling. That’s how families and countries get out of poverty. This link between saving lives, a lower birthrate, and ending poverty was the most important early lesson Melinda and I learned about global health.
Warren Buffett’s Best Investment | Bill Gates
 

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EDIT: the below response was to the initial post regarding bill gates.

what do you mean about the pig prediction tho bro?

A mock pandemic was put together, where coronavirus in pigs in Brazil spread around the globe, and they talked about outcomes and provided....solutions...on how to deal with it.

The mock pandemic started November 2019.
The Wuhan outbreak started December 2019

Watch the video, read the comments.
 

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Edit: I replied while you were replying to me lol

1 month before COVID19 hit the Wuhan blocks, a coronavirus from a pig was thrown into pandemic scenario exercise....

:patrice:.....so talented at predicting



It’s a pandemic simulation “germ games” similar to military simulations aka “war games”

i think they are beneficial exercises. It’s not like pathologist and epidemiologist have to be visionaries to create these types of scenarios.. you can see over human history examples of zoonotic viruses that mutate and become transmissive amongst humans. They basically took the features of SARS, changed the name to CAPS and changed the animal of origin to create a realistic simulation.

This is the basic epidemiological origin of SARS
SARS-CoV is thought to be an animal virus from an as-yet-uncertain animal reservoir, perhaps bats, that spread to other animals (civet cats) and first infected humans in the Guangdong province of southern China in 2002.
 
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