COVID-19 Pandemic (Coronavirus)

[Cladyclad]

Spending $1,000 on season tickets for Major League Baseball.

No lol 6 tickets for 2 basketball games

 

[focusloco]

why do you care so much about shyt opening back up? as long as you have food in your belly and lungs that haven't been infected with this virus, what good is it to admonish any of us who aren't eager to see the shutdown end until it's certain that scores of people won't die within months or even weeks? what the fukk is wrong with you people?

For real breh...let's slow the curve first before we start forcing the issue....The CDC gave a statement warning if we open back up too early we'll be back to square one...anybody advocating for this country to open up before the doctors and scientists give us the all clear are fukking idiots....the virus will tell us we can open up...not politicians pundits or posters that are talking out their ass

 

[GunRanger]

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

I said a month and a half from now. About mid May expect these restrictions to either start getting lifted or completely get lifted. For many places that's gonna be like 2 months of shut down.

When they open stuff back up some people will be leery. On the other hand a lot of people, they had to shut all this stuff down because they wouldn't stop. I still see people hooping together at the basketball hoops in my apartments when I come home from work. People want out of this situation and many will rush back to what they were doing.

The Mayor of Philadelphia just said he expects this to last through the summer.


Coronavirus ‘new normal’ will continue through summer in Philly, mayor says; Pa.’s case surge could come next week


There's no way things are going back to normal by next month. The government is basically going to have to cut multiple rounds of checks because this isn't going way anytime soon.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Please explain to me how you completely shut down the country's economy for 6 months taking many company's revenue to zero and then restart it and have it work. Almost every business in this country would go completely belly up with 6 months of minimal to no revenue. 6 months you go flip that switch back on and there's basically no jobs for anybody to work. People don't have jobs they don't have health care. They get sick and can't get treatment. People with pre-existing conditions can't get treatment for them. Most of these unemployment benefits are gonna max out at about 4 months. At that point how does one feed their family for the next 2 months?

And you're saying all this happens to contain a sickness with a 2 week incubation period that within 2 months should have been under control and contained nationwide? The debt crisis of 2008, you're gonna be causing that on a much larger scale. The federal reserve would have to print up enough money to prop up the entire economy and all it's spending. You're talking massive inflation more that likely which means they have to print more money causing more inflation.

It would destroy our economy and most people's lives.

you're right tho, we're all fukked either way.

 

[satam55]

A COVID-19 vaccine could be produced in record time, but that still won't be fast enough to to solve our current pandemic. What could: treatments. Developers all over the world are working on repurposing old drugs and creating new ones to treat COVID-19, and some could be ready by April this year. The reason treatments might be available so much sooner than a vaccine has to do with safety. We spoke with a couple researchers — one developing a treatment and one developing a vaccine — about their timelines.

 

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[I Really Mean It]

you're right tho, we're all fukked either way.

He's not right. it might destroy a certain way of life, the one we've been inured to depend upon, but it doesn't mean society can't become something better. this is an opportunity to look past the greed and excess, the consumerism and consumption, the robotic drive to outpace everyone. We are all in this together, facing a threat that can kill any of us, regardless of our status. People like him aren't looking to the future, the possibilities that this virus now compels our society to consider. UBI. An end to our reliance on the exploited labor of China. Universal health care that can meet the needs of a public confronted by an unanticipated threat of this scope. This country has been running on fumes for decades, lording its military might to back an unstable economic standing that would have ended any other nation, believing in an exceptionalism that left many of its citizens - including far too many black people - buying into a myth of invincibility.

No, we are not fukked. The elites are the ones who are fukked. They are the people who are now sweating. And their bootlickers on this forum can eat shyt.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

He's not right. it might destroy a certain way of life, the one we've been inured to depend upon, but it doesn't mean society can't become something better. this is an opportunity to look past the greed and excess, the consumerism and consumption, the robotic drive to outpace everyone. We are all in this together, facing a threat that can kill any of us, regardless of our status. People like him aren't looking to the future, the possibilities that this virus now compels our society to consider. UBI. An end to our reliance on the exploited labor of China. Universal health care that can meet the needs of a public confronted by an unanticipated threat of this scope. This country has been running on fumes for decades, lording its military might to back an unstable economic standing that would have ended any other nation, believing in an exceptionalism that left many of its citizens buying into a myth of invincibility.

No, we are not fukked. The elites are the ones who are fukked. They are the people who are now sweating. And their bootlickers on this forum can eat shyt.

Good post. + Repped

 

[Stick Up Kid]

He's not right. it might destroy a certain way of life, the one we've been inured to depend upon, but it doesn't mean society can't become something better. this is an opportunity to look past the greed and excess, the consumerism and consumption, the robotic drive to outpace everyone. We are all in this together, facing a threat that can kill any of us, regardless of our status. People like him aren't looking to the future, the possibilities that this virus now compels our society to consider. UBI. An end to our reliance on the exploited labor of China. Universal health care that can meet the needs of a public confronted by an unanticipated threat of this scope. This country has been running on fumes for decades, lording its military might to back an unstable economic standing that would have ended any other nation, believing in an exceptionalism that left many of its citizens - including far too many black people - buying into a myth of invincibility.

No, we are not fukked. The elites are the ones who are fukked. They are the people who are now sweating. And their bootlickers on this forum can eat shyt.

you should write an article

 

[dabb]

He's not right. it might destroy a certain way of life, the one we've been inured to depend upon, but it doesn't mean society can't become something better. this is an opportunity to look past the greed and excess, the consumerism and consumption, the robotic drive to outpace everyone. We are all in this together, facing a threat that can kill any of us, regardless of our status. People like him aren't looking to the future, the possibilities that this virus now compels our society to consider. UBI. An end to our reliance on the exploited labor of China. Universal health care that can meet the needs of a public confronted by an unanticipated threat of this scope. This country has been running on fumes for decades, lording its military might to back an unstable economic standing that would have ended any other nation, believing in an exceptionalism that left many of its citizens - including far too many black people - buying into a myth of invincibility.

No, we are not fukked. The elites are the ones who are fukked. They are the people who are now sweating. And their bootlickers on this forum can eat shyt.

they just scared....most these ppl lack true empathy to understand how the damage is already done....everyone screaming "but muh summah"...are short sighted people who about to get ate by reality

 

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He's not right. it might destroy a certain way of life, the one we've been inured to depend upon, but it doesn't mean society can't become something better. this is an opportunity to look past the greed and excess, the consumerism and consumption, the robotic drive to outpace everyone. We are all in this together, facing a threat that can kill any of us, regardless of our status. People like him aren't looking to the future, the possibilities that this virus now compels our society to consider. UBI. An end to our reliance on the exploited labor of China. Universal health care that can meet the needs of a public confronted by an unanticipated threat of this scope. This country has been running on fumes for decades, lording its military might to back an unstable economic standing that would have ended any other nation, believing in an exceptionalism that left many of its citizens - including far too many black people - buying into a myth of invincibility.

No, we are not fukked. The elites are the ones who are fukked. They are the people who are now sweating. And their bootlickers on this forum can eat shyt.

Bats ...

 

[inndaskKy]

Some of these points and references are outdated but some are still useful.

Facts about Covid-19

Published: March 14, 2020; Updated: April 7, 2020
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Fully referenced facts about Covid-19, provided by experts in the field, to help our readers make a realistic risk assessment. (Regular updates below)

„The only means to fight the plague is honesty.“ Albert Camus, The Plague (1947)

Overview

1. According to data from the best-studied countries such as South Korea, Iceland and Germany as well as the cruise ship Diamond Princess, the overall lethality of Covid19 is in the per mille range and thus about ten times lower than initially assumed by the WHO.
2. A study in Nature Medicine comes to a similar conclusion even for the Chinese city of Wuhan. The initially significantly higher values for Wuhan were obtained because a many people with mild or no symptoms were not recorded.
3. 50% to 80% of test-positive individuals remain symptom-free. Even among the 70 to 79 year old persons about 60% remain symptom-free, many more show only mild symptoms.
4. The median age of the deceased in most countries (including Italy) is over 80 years and only about 1% of the deceased had no serious previous illnesses. The age and risk profile of deaths thus essentially corresponds to normal mortality.
5. Many media reports of young and healthy people dying from Covid19 have proven to be false upon closer inspection. Many of these people either did not die from Covid19 or they in fact had serious preconditions (such as undiagnosed leukaemia).
6. Normal overall mortality in the US is about 8000 people per day, in Germany about 2600 people and in Italy about 1800 people per day. Influenza mortality in the US is up to 80,000, in Germany and Italy up to 25,000, and in Switzerland up to 1500 people per winter.
7. Strongly increased death rates, as in northern Italy, can be influenced by additional risk factors such as very high air pollution and legionella contamination, as well as a collapse in the care of the elderly and sick due to infections, mass panic and lockdown.
8. In countries such as Italy and Spain, and to some extent Great Britain and the US, a serious overload of hospitals, notably by the flu, is not unusual. In addition, up to 15% of doctors and nurses currently have to self-quarantine, even if they develop no symptoms.
9. An important distinction concerns the question of whether people die with or indeed from coronaviruses. Autopsies show that in many cases the previous illnesses were an important or decisive factor, but the official figures usually do not reflect this.
10. Thus in order to assess the danger of the disease, the key indicator is not the often mentioned number of test-positive persons and deceased, but the number of persons who actually and unexpectedly develop or die of pneumonia.
11. The often shown exponential curves of „corona cases“ are misleading, since the number of tests also increases exponentially. In most countries, the ratio of positive tests to total tests either remains constant between 5% to 15% or increases only very slowly.
12. Countries without lockdowns and contact bans, such as Japan, South Korea and Sweden, have not experienced a more negative course of events than other countries. This might call into question the effectiveness of such far-reaching measures.
13. According to leading lung specialists, invasive ventilation of Covid19 patients is often counterproductive and causes additional damage to the lungs. The invasive ventilation of Covid19 patients is partly done out of fear of spreading the virus through aerosols.
14. Contrary to original assumptions, however, the WHO determined at the end of March that there is no evidence of aerosol dispersal of the virus. A leading German virologist also found no aerosol and no smear infections in a pilot study.
15. Many clinics in Europe and the US have been lacking patients and some have had to introduce short-time work. Numerous operations and therapies were cancelled by clinics, even emergency patients sometimes stay at home out of fear of the virus.
16. Several media have been caught trying to dramatize the situation in clinics, sometimes even with manipulative pictures and videos. In general, many media outlets do not question even doubtful official statements and figures.
17. The virus test kits used internationally are prone to errors. Several studies have shown that even normal corona viruses can give a false positive result. Moreover, the virus test currently in use has not been clinically validated due to time pressure.
18. Numerous internationally renowned experts from the fields of virology, immunology and epidemiology consider the measures taken to be counterproductive and recommend a rapid natural immunisation of the general population while protecting risk groups.
19. The number of people suffering from unemployment, psychological problems and domestic violence as a result of the measures taken has exploded in the US and worldwide. Several experts believe that the measures may claim more lives than the virus itself.
20. NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden warned that the corona crisis is used for the massive and permanent expansion of global surveillance. The renowned virologist Pablo Goldschmidt spoke of a „global media terror“ and „totalitarian measures“. Leading British virologist Professor John Oxford spoke of a „media epidemic“.

See also: The Open Letter by Professor Bhakdi to German Chancellor Merkel.

Below you will find fully referenced updates on medical and political developments.

 

[Red Shield]

We aren't shutting the economy down for 2 consecutive quarters. That's madness. That's sparking a death spiral for this country.

you're already in the death spiral breh